Pit looks aside... the breeder the OP posted is groooooss! Read this, and tell me this person is well-educated and in it to better the breed: "Even though our foundation dogs have numerous "champions" in their pedigrees, we don't participate in the show ring as we find it to be too politically subjective and therefore the term "champion bloodlines" over-used, overblown and over-rated. For all intents and purposes, show ring champions are nothing but beauty queens. The fact is that approximately 90% of the dogs out there meet the "standard" and it is not unusual to encounter dogs over 65 pounds (out of standard) entered. Why have a "standard" if it's not "standardized" ? " Basically, he feels that he has the credentials to judge what dogs are worth breeding and what dogs aren't. Apparently, he knows everything about anything! If he is not showing his dogs, their worthiness of breeding is based solely on what he thinks, his opinion. So he's basically taking it into his own hands... without considering showing, working, or even testing his dogs. It is CRAP to blame one's laziness on the ethics of conformation shows. There are plenty of clubs, such as ADBA, who judge a lot fairer than AKC shows (in reference to Amstaffs). He either cannot get points on his dogs, or he knows nothing/is too lazy to get out there and exhibit them. "They come with a certificate of health and their HEALTH is GUARANTEED* for 6 months from date of purchase." Meaning, if your pup develops a hereditary disease at 1 year old, youre on your own! =P No health tests = a very high likelihood that your puppy will end up with hip or elbow issues that could cost you $1000's or even your dog's life at a young age. NOT WORTH IT! They also do not have a spay/neuter or return contract, so they are obviously not concerned with where their puppies end up. "TO BE SOLD AS A BREEDABLE PAIR. WHEN THEY WERE BRED, THEY PRODUCED BLACK, BLUE AND CHAMPAGNE. THE LITTER WAS LOST TO PNEUMONIA." They are selling a breeding pair, on their website. Period. They lost a litter to pneumonia! This does not happen, especially not a full litter, in a clean, in-home, well-operated breeding program! The puppy pictures show wormy, thin, dirty puppies who live outside with multiple other dogs in pens. I see loads of dogs that look just like his, that have great personalities, languishing in shelters everywhere. If you are willing to buy from a breeder with such poor morals, you will be taking less of a chance if you adopt an adult dog from a rescue. Why do you even need to buy a Pittie if you're buying from a crappy breeder and you only want the pup as a pet? Are you not aware that the majority of dogs abandoned in most areas are Pit Bulls? Unless you want to show or work the dog, or you need a puppy for some particular reason, save a life if you really love this breed.