Guess we're going to talk about breeding again
Madaline said:
All purebreed dogs were mutts at one point in time, I think down the road alot of these "designer breeds" will actually become very popular and they will be more strict rules put on their breeding, you just need some good people to put the effort into breeding these dogs, to make sure they dont end up with health and behavioral problems.
In a perfect world yes, but so far I have yet to find breeders of mutts who really care about making a standard. Tinaweena has a point, which is that some of them at least try to make healthy puppies (meaning testing the parents), but it's still a long shot from creating a standard for a breed. Let's face it, the big majority of people who sell those mutts do it because they are so popular and they can use lies to sell them easily (they don't shed, they're more healthy than purebreds etc etc).
Madaline said:
Alot of purebeed dogs are inbreed and have alot of problems too. You can spend a fortune on a purebreed dog and it end up in the pound also.
This is true that purebreds can have lots of health issues also. It's less likely though if they come from a good breeder, although it can still happen. If you get your purebred from a bad breeder, you're very likely to have some sort of problem though. But good breeders will make sure that their puppies never end up in the pond, by making the buyer sign a contract about returning the dog to them if they can't take care of it anymore. I'm sure some people still get away with it, but it's much less common than for puppies brought without such a contract. Again, it's the difference between good breeders and backyard breeders.
Tinaweena said:
All of the purebreeds were bred for a job of some sort. Do we not mainly bred now for companion animals (with a few exceptions to working dogs)? If we do breed for companions, which is quite evident with the temperments that are being produced and preffered, trying to maintain the puppy attitude throughout their lives, loyalty, friendliness, gentleness etc... then I see no reason in continuing to breed the purebreds that are made for a specific job. Why have a border collie in the home, if you don't have a field full of sheep to occupy them? Why have a Saint Bernard unless you go on mountain rescue missions? I am in no way saying these aren't fabulous breeds, but I am trying to be devils advocate here.
We as a society breed dogs to be our friends, not our employees anymore.
Not always true, as some dogs are still used for whatever job they were created for, but I agree. But again it's not a debate vs purebred vs mutt. I'm not much more in favor of breeding purebreds than mutts to be honest, mostly for the reasons you gave. However, I do have some respect for breeders that breed their dogs in an attempt to improve the breed, while I have no respect for any breeders that just breeds dog for fun or money - and that goes for purebreds as much as mutts. The difference is that there is just no reason to breed mutts, as there is no breed to try to improve.
Tinaweena said:
There are standards to follow, and if you would do some reasearch instead of sticking your fingers in your ears and saying "LA LA LA LA LA" then you would learn that it is trying to be developed...much like any other new breed that probably had the same warm reception way back in the day that labradoodles are getting now adays.
This is where you're wrong. None of those 'breeders' is trying to develop a breed. They just want to sell cute and popular puppies. Furthermore, making a breed involves lots of 'testing' breeding, and when 5 million dogs are killed every year, I don't think there is any excuse to even try to make new breeds now... none.
Tinaweena said:
This being said, it is the buyers responsibility to do research about the breeders, ask to see health testing papers, spend time with the parents, take a look at the kennel conditions. You find just as many purebred dogs in shelters as you do mixes.
I totally agree, unfortunately lots of people are misinformed or just not informed at all and keep buying from those breeders (or petshops). It just happens that more threads have been done about mutts lately, but we just say the same things when someone wants to buy a purebred dogs and is asking for advice. It's never been a mutt vs purebred debate, it's just some people that want to make it one.