Central Asian Shepherds (come on Centeral Molloser!)

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  1. planet molosser

    planet molosser CASSA

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    Ok thats not me but my hair was dying at the premier so I asked this scott to take the pic of our new teenager.
     
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    lakotasong Sled Dog Guardian

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    Great pictures, Jeannine! Thanks for sharing them along with the factual info.
     
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    neapolitanpitbull Never enough pets

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    How big do they get?
    Are they good with kids?
    Do you know of any good breeders I could chat with?
    Do they tend to run away from home?
    Are they easy to train or are they hard headed?
    What are they like to own?

    Thanks :)
     
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    Jeannine, WOW! Your dogs are stunning. You must be so proud of them!
     
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    How big do they get?
    around 120-130lb or higher, With males and females showing clear difference in build and females being smaller
    Are they good with kids?
    They are amazing with kids, but dont leave a child alone or if playing with other kids, it is a huge dog
    Do you know of any good breeders I could chat with?
    check out www.molosserdogs.com and ask around there
    Do they tend to run away from home?
    They usually stick to a certain area, roaming within a distance, but they dont "run away"
    Are they easy to train or are they hard headed?
    They are both :) Very smart and quick learnings, but they are thinking dogs, and need to see a point in training
    What are they like to own?
    Its rather fun :) They keep you on the edge
     
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    I'm confused Oriondw, in your profile it says that you have a CO, do you have a CAO aswell?
     
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    I've worked with both breeds extensively and both breeds are my favourites as far as dogs go. I know quiet a bit about them, not to mention they are very similar.
     
  8. planet molosser

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    How big do they get?
    Males run average 3o inches 130-150lbs
    Females 90-120lbs 27-29 inches

    Are they good with kids?
    If you get lines like livestock lines.
    here is our gallery with our dogs and families
    http://www.casdog.com/photopost/showgallery.php/cat/603
    Our dogs go to school to do demos with kids here is a video
    http://www.casdog.com/photopost/data/685/thumbs/MVC001V.jpg

    Do you know of any good breeders I could chat with?
    As pres of the US Club I can only recommended breeders who meet a code of ethics. But if you wish to chat with breeders that do not and have fighting lines pls do visit the site orion linked it has even figthing pics and breeding who promote and select for that. We do not.
    We have breeders in Mi who are judges from Russia but they are not online if you are close pls visit them and ask me for some contact info.

    Do they tend to run away from home?
    They are territorial and will extend territory without fencing.
    My dogs dont run off but break into the house in the summer for some A/C

    Are they easy to train or are they hard headed?
    They do not have much prey drive they are easy to train for routine work and basic obedience . Even thou I have some with military trainers.

    What are they like to own? Cat like family like guard like creatures of habit
    Please visit http://www.ovcharkarescue.org for some LGD rescues of many breeds. We often get casts off from other non accepted CAS breeders in this rescue.

    Difference between me and others is I own (12)& breed(40) CAS .
    And have handled, seen , worked, CGC, trained, rescues many other breeds but it dont make me expert enough to answer the above ? about them.

    And I own the first CGC of the breed in the USA as well as the first TDi and the first UKC and Grand Champion. I dont need HELP getting a dog to pass a CGC it is so basic for REAL experts on the breeds.[​IMG]
     
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    Thanks everyone will post more since pictures speak louder than words./[​IMG]

    The day Coz passed the ATTS he has CGC TDI ATTS TT _ PT_ FCI Tan just for temperament. GDC Elbows Hips- Ovc Clear- OFA GOOD
    UKC DNA _P UKC _ Canadian_ International Rarities Grand Champion
    RKF Russian Excellent Pres of the Russian Club Revaz, Galina K Ovcharka expert, Zoran Brankovic and Mrs Brankovic RKF CAS experts, Zhitkova CAS breeder BIS judge and Polinova CAS nationals judge ALL excellent.
    PLus about 40 other wins under FCI experts.

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    Sire to our FF Pebbles and FF Spirit YOUNGEST UKC Champion and FF Bambam our FULLTIME Neutered working LGD...
     
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    Last XMas UKC Champion FoxFire Baby Pebbles CGC PH RKF Excellent
    Dam Princess ALi of Taskent Sire Cozemo as seen in the new DOG BIBLE
    Mother to FF Terror BIS under Zhitkova and FF BOBO going for UKC Total dog

    She is a great working bitch excellent with the sheep and when she is retired from breeding she will be spayed and live with her brother out pack with our growing herd... She is just under 27 inches medium bone so she is not going to be a big show winner yet the pups that come out of her are HUGE....

    Here is she again pregnant last year.

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    neapolitanpitbull Never enough pets

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    Gorgeous dogs!
     
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    Yes...great looking dogs and lots of good info and links.

    couple of questions..

    Why do they crop the ears so short? Why do they crop the ears at all? Function or Looks?

    What is their health like for big dogs? (lifespan, health issues...etc)

    Maybe this is off track but what are the main difference between CO and CAO? I read the slight temperment difference but what else?

    Do they herd or guard or both?


    Thanks for the info...good reading :D
     
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    Why do they crop the ears so short?
    Technically they are not cropped they are amputated.
    Crop is indicative of taking a natural ear and doing Plastic surgery on it to give a different appearance.
    This is a working amputation that has been done on this landrace of breeds for over 4000 years..The reason the less apendages for the wolr or predator to grab the less damage to the dog and it can save thier life.
    And since it is done at 3 days like the DOCK of the tail it cant be chosen for just working dogs vs pets at that age.
    The place they call home does NOT have vets in the working areas of the breed thus it is the survival of the fitest.

    What is their health like for big dogs? (lifespan, health issues...etc)
    My oldest female is 10 next week and my oldest male is 10 in March .
    BOTH are working , he is still out showing and winning at what many consider ancient for molossers.
    When the breed is inbred we will see less on longevity , increase of size and a rise in joint issues.
    We are lucky so far within my lines but others are not as lucky.
    I find if you select for work first show 2nd you get a long lived dog.I

    Maybe this is off track but what are the main difference between CO and CAO? I read the slight temperment difference but what else?

    Truth is regards to temp I dont want to get into it with the severe politics that surround both breeds on the net due to the unusual rare fact that they were taken from their native lands and bred under Comminist rule for a long period of time.

    So here is my opinion based on having 4 CO at my home and many others i handled in the show ring.

    Appearance the CO has a tail should be bigger than the CAS and has a longer coat-
    Temp the CO is a better security dog with a quicker trigger than the CAS.
    Please read the standards for correct temperament for both breeds and look at key words difference for correct and for faults.
    http://www.ankc.aust.com/centrala.html
    http://www.raritiesinc.ca/breed standards/Caucasian Mountain Dog FCI Standard 328.pdf

    Do they herd or guard or both?
    They guard the sheep and other livestock native to their area are nomadic they move with the trible vs the dog moving the sheep.

    Thanks for the info...good reading YOUR WELCOME :)
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