Has anyone seen any of these dogs in person? Their the weirdest dogs I've ever seen, I can almost see the dobes long nose but than it looks like the top part of their head is pittie looking... Gorgeous animals though, nice short coat and extremely musuclar looking. Tall too! 27-30' for males! Up to 140lbs! My bf found them on the net, he's been extremely disappointed after we found out that presas are not the breed of dog for our lifestyle... Now he wants one of these!!!!! He's trying to talk me into it, by saying that they have the nose of dobes... LOL. I don't know what I'd do with a 140lbs dog!! That's huge! I told him we can look for a breeder but nothing until we move into our new house. http://www.canispanther.com/CanisPantherMales.html This is the only breeder I've found so far... and she doesn't look to be good at all... breeding GSD's, APBT and canis panthers... but I just wanted to show you some pics.