Canidae changing formula - any thoughts?

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  1. Barb04

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    I just got this info from my pet store that Canidae will first change their Lamb & Rice formula. Does anyone have thoughts if this is good or bad. The girl at the pet store said they are doing this because rice is getting expensive.

    Present formula: Brown Rice

    New formula:
    Mix of:
    Brown Rice
    Cracked Pearl Barley
    Rice Bran
    Peas
    Millet
     
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    Hmmmmm.... hope it doesn't change the quality .....I'm due to buy soon and will ask !
     
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    hmm--this is good to know--since that is the kind that I use.
     
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    Even though I don't feed it, I dont like it. It takes away from the simplicity that allowed dogs with allergies to eat this food.
     
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    I don't like it one bit... barley, rice bran, millet, peas.. all to replace brown rice? Really disappointing, even though I'm not an avid follower of Canidae.
     
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    Millet and barley have good nutrient qualities . . . but adding rice bran? Seems like a filler. But I've always had some problems with feeding something that rice was such a large part of the content. I mean, if I wanted to feed my dogs rice, I'd cook up a batch in the rice cooker.

    And I'm with Zoom on the simplicity thing. I don't feed Canidae and never have, but I'd always heard good things about it for many dogs with allergies.
     
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    Max needs chicken only food. He doesn't like California Natural. I looked at EVO but it has chicken and turkey. If Max eats anything other than chicken, he gets ear infections.
     
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    I have been thinking about Orijen for the whole gang... this change may push me to it, I have switched Di to Orijen as she seems to have had appetite issues of late and LOVED the orijen, I have not switched the rest but Mindy has reactions to foods and the Canidae L&R was a food she was good on, it will be too bad if the ruin it for sensitive dogs.
     
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    I'm not pleased. Canidae Lamb & Rice is literally the one and only food Winston can eat without getting sick, so these ingredient changes worry me. That, and I hate when I see barley, rice bran and millet in foods. I wish he could eat something grain free like the other dogs, but he can't.. and if these changes make him ill again, then I have no idea what to switch him to.
     
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    I don't feed Canidae anymore, but I don't like that change, and I agree with Zoom about the simplicity thing.
     
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    The way I see it... they are lowering the quality of their food, even if it's just a bit, rathering than having to raise the price because of the inflation of goods (and the rising cost of transport.)
    Boo!

    Still think Canidae is a great food for a lot of people though. I'd want to see what the changes really mean... how much brown rice are they losing? How much rice bran is going in? Stuff like that. But overall, not a positive move one way or another IMO...
     
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    Anyone know if they are doing it with their cat foods?
     
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    They will likely be doing it with their cat foods as well. Unfortunately, yes, the prices of rice are going through the roof and they have had to all alternate sources to compensate without their prices going through the roof.

    I'm not crazy about it either, but, the alternative will make Canidae over the top, price wise, for many people.
     
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    I dunno, since Canidae is a lot cheaper than other good foods, this is probably a good move for them as many of their target customers seem to feed the food because of the price and relatively good quality. I think it'd hurt them more if their prices got as high as other foods because price is a main incentive for feeding Canidae.

    Anyways, we feed Natura foods here nowadays. Canidae didn't sit too well with Beau.
     
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    I'm feeding Sancho Canidae as well, but getting ready to swicth to raw. This has been the only kibble he has consistantly eaten. If I were still planning on feeding this I would be worried that he would stop eating it:( I'm going to call the feed store where I purchase the food, and email Canidae. I'll keep you guys posted.
     
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    I like Canidae and will wait and see how Ranger performs the new formula. We switch up formulas from the All Life Stages to Chicken to Lamb formula because Ranger has A. D .D when it comes to food. He needs change.
    Everyone is so pro Orijin. I think the protein is too high and I worry about the adverse effects on the kidney. There are grain free formulas without that high a protein like Natural Balance and Now. My dog needs grain in his food because of the need for fibre.
     
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    I'm excited for this! Let us know how Sancho does on raw. :)
     
  19. angie8023

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    I'm excited as well! I will keep you posted:)
     
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    The thing you have to remember with kibble is that is dried weight. I personally would never feed a kibble that is less than 35% good quality protein. I worked out the protein content of a raw diet if it was dried. It was 53% protein.

    A raw diet in its non dried form is about 20%, but that does not mean a kibble with 25% protein would be sufficient for a carnivore. If you were to add the = amount of water, it would be less than 12% protein :yikes: !! For comparison-horses who are herbivores, need a diet of 9-11% protein.
     
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