Can puppy start on Innova EVO?

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  1. Barb04

    Barb04 Love my pets Staff Member

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    We just found out that we will be getting a new puppy hopefully by the end of this month. I will post asap.

    My question is when I switch the puppy over from whatever is now being fed, can I feed it Innova EVO or is this only for adults?

    Thanks for your help. Barb
     
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    :D What kind of puppy will it be, Barb? If it's a large breed I'd think definitely, but Mordy might have some of her excellent recommendations based on the size dog your new one is going to be.

    You could also go to www.naturapet.com . If you e-mail them they are very good about answering questions, or you might find your question already answered on their site.

    Oh, you're going to have so much FUN - Max is going to be hilarious to watch.

    Poor CJ! Two puppies! ;)
     
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    What kind of puppy are you getting? Just curious for my own curiosity needs, not for the food thing. ;)
     
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    evo is not a suitable food for large/giant breeds due to its high mineral and calorie content, which can cause orthopedic problems during the phase where growth is fastest, but it would be okay for smaller dogs and ideal for toys.
     
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    Mordy, Do you mean it's not suitable for a large/giant breed when they are puppies? Are you saying I should feed a puppy food and then switch to EVO when it gets older?

    Thanks
    Barb
     
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    Barb04 Love my pets Staff Member

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    The puppy is a Bandog (pitbull/neopolitan mix). It's coming from a very reputable beeder out in California. She is black with some white on her chest. Full grown, she's supposed to be 24" - 26" at the withers and 105-120 lbs. Carl is so excited. He changed his mind at the last minute to a female so it would definitely get along with Max and not challenge him. I will be giving extra special attention to CJ since there's going to be another female in the house.

    Renee, Max is definitely going to have a ball with the new pup!
     
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    yep, exactly. :) edit note: not a puppy food, your dog is too large for that

    during the growth phase you want to be extremely careful about not overfeeding, both in regards to calcium and calories. once the dog is all grown up, the evo is fine.

    if you feed too many calories per day, the pup will grow quickly, which is undesirable. slow, even growth without growth spurts is much healthier both in the short and long run.

    you can find a number of good articles on the topic here. i do not agree with all her points of view on all the topics she addresses on that page, but she has a lot of experience in raising large and giant breed dogs.
     
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    Uh, Barb, I was checking some profiles on the Bandog/Bandogge and one thing that kind of jumped out at me is that their temperament tends to animal aggression.

    Here's the most concise profile: http://www.molosserdogs.com/modules.php?name=Encyclopedia&op=content&tid=935

    I like using that site particularly because although it is devoted to the molossers, they tend to be very realistic and straightforward. It's not to the advantage of any breed for potential owners to be uninformed about things like temperament.
     
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    Thanks for the site Renee. Carl has researched, researched, & researched the breed. There are breeders out there that I wouldn't trust. There are those that are very reputable and breed for temperament. The breeder we are using breeds for stable temperaments and heavily socializes his pups with people, children, and dogs. We've had many days & nights of discussions about the dog, and do feel comfortable about the decision. Some of the people we know have children as well as other pets which they get along with. We do know that a male with Max would eventually be a situation of separation, but a female with Max should be okay. As with any dog, we will always have our eyes and ears open. The safety of our pets is #1 and always will be.

    Thanks for the info. Max thinks you're the best!
     
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    Good! I didn't want to pour ashes on your puppy excitement, but I didn't want you to have a broken heart if there were problems, and sometimes breeders - even good ones - are blinded by the love of their breed to potential situational problems. You love your pups and kits so much that I knew it would just crush you if you ended up having to return a new dog because it was a danger to the rest of your furry family.

    Getting the pup spayed early, before the onset of puberty, will probably help a great deal too. :D
     
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    The vet said Carly is approx. .85 years old (why would he give me an age like that?? lol) Do you think Carly is ready to start a gradual switch to the EVO? She is on the Innova puppy, but she doesn't eat it if she see's the other dogs eating the EVO. We're all (vet and friends) certain that she's done growing. Just wanted some opinions before I do anything :)
     
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    Brattina, Mordy's post (#4) seems to say that the EVO is a good choice for small and toy breeds, even as pups.

    How are Maddie and Carly getting on? Has your Mom cooled her jets about another dog? ;)
     
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    Response I got back from Innova on feeding EVO to a puppy:

    Thank you for contacting us about our products. You should feed the puppy food until the reach their full growth potential.

    The Innova EVO is balanced for all life stages, and therefore can be fed to puppies that are not large breeds.
    Here is an excerpt from a letter our Vice President, co-founder, and nutritionist Peter Atkins wrote that might help to further define the Innova EVO and large breed puppies/dogs:
    Q. Is EVO Dog Food appropriate to feed to my large breed puppy?



    A. No. EVO Dog will tend to maximize growth. This could be harmful to the long term health and well being of your large breed puppy.



    Q. Can I feed EVO Dog Food to my Adult or Senior Large Breed Dog?



    A. Yes. Feeding EVO Dog Food to your adult large breed dog can work very nicely.




    I hope I have given enough information to adequately address your query. If you have any further questions or need additional information, please feel free to contact me at your convenience. ​

    Please reference the original e-mail when responding.​

    Rory Tharp
    Customer Service Supervisor
    Natura Pet Products
    1-800-532-7261​
     
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    They're pretty good about responding. :)
     
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    I'd like to say that Maddie tolerates Carly. That's the best word I can think of. I don't get that feeling that she loves her or would miss her if she was gone, but they get along great. Maddie is teaching her well.
    On the flip side Carly is totally obsessed with Maddie. Loves her to death, follows her everywhere, has to sleep with her. I think these actions are making Maddie merely tolerate her.
    >>> Well, this is what I thought, but I guess I was wrong. My old colledge professor called me last Monday and asked me if I could dog sit her dog. She was going on vacation and the kennel she boards at was full. I said yes, as long as the dogs got along. Wed she brought him over (Waffle, a cocker poodle mix) and they did get along great. Then on Thurs my dad dropped Nikki off at my house, unaware that I was already dog sitting Waffle. It's been a full house!
    Waffle practically tried to lay on top of Carly because he wanted to lay in the dog bed she was in. Carly yelped, she wasn't hurt - well, maybe her pride, and Maddie came running. It was kind of cute. Maddie sniffed her to make sure she was okay I guess, and licked her face. Then she crowded Waffle out of the dog bed and laid with Carly for like 5mins an then she jumped back onto the couch with me.
    Maddie seems to like having a dog around the house her size and her speed. I took her and Waffle to a park we only occasionally get to go to because its farther away and its Huge. Lots of trails. They ran together, Maddie off leash and Waffle on the retractable leash. He looks nothing like a cocker, taller than Maddie, but their pace was like the exact same.
    I was asked to groom him, which I did. What I nightmare! He had like 3 inches of hair all over. Matted and everywhere. She asked me to shave him down, no fancy poodle cuts. I shaved him, he was a very good boy, and bathed him. I gave him a rest and let him air dry and then I shaved on him again. He doesn't look like the same dog! I groomed all four dogs that day. I was exhusted :eek:
    Nikki goes hom tonight and Waffle is supossed to be picked up tomorrow. I forgot how much work it was to have 4 dogs, though its not as hard as one would imagine.
    When they go home I'm going to take Maddie and Carly out with me for some quality bonding time. My poor spoiled, neglected dogs LoL!

    And to answer your question, my mom has cooled her jets about getting a dog. She's actually concerned about getting a dog to fit her lifestyle, so it'll be a while. Phew!
     

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