Breed Info/Suggestions

Discussion in 'The Dog Breeds' started by Lyzelle, Mar 25, 2012.

  1. CharlieDog

    CharlieDog Rude and Not Ginger

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    A good GSD breeder is a bit like a needle in a haystack sometimes. And it could just be my two and the llines they are/were out of (Knox also is a bit more defensive than Apollo was) but they would redirect onto you. Apollo very rarely would he get so wound up that that happened.

    Knox is like a Malinois though. Right now I feel like a battered house wife with all these bruises on my arms. :p
     
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    I've heard that, and someone else recommended them for a similar reason. High energy, workable dogs, lots of fun.

    DH is weird about wirehaired dogs, or dogs with beards. It's one reason he liked the Shorthair better, I think.

    Yeah, DH wants a girl anyway, so we were definitely looking at a female.

    I've considered Malamutes, but the ones I've met weren't as sharp or quick as the Sibes, and I really like quick dogs. I've also heard they can be harder-headed, with not quite the same smarts as Sibes, more stubborn and brawny type dogs. I'm still considering, and it's one of the very first breeds Jin asked about. The ones I met were able to be off-leash, though. Definitely seemed like a more doofus/slow version of the Sibe, but still energetic, happy, fun dogs who were a lot more loyal than the Sibes.

    Just waiting on more info about them. There is a Malamute Rescue nearby.

    Labs I've met were a lot like the Malamute temperaments....not as quick or sharp, although still very energetic and goofy dogs. Jin is definitely interested in one, it's just a matter of figuring out if Labs are truly a little slower or not. I don't like slow dogs...lol. I like GO GO GO, a dog that can think and move just a bit faster than me. I've always felt Labs were a bit more reserved, too. But it would be so much fun to figure out more about them, and what their personalities are really like.

    I just asked him again, and he's interested in Labs, GSDs(if we can find a good one), Malamutes, and GSP. ETA: Oh, and Border Collies. I think he goes a little weak in the knees every time he sees one out and about around town. ;)

    How tolerant are the shorter/sleeker haired breeds mentioned here? Montana can get some crazy winter weather. ;)
     
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    CharlieDog Rude and Not Ginger

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    I would think a GSP would definitely need a coat at the very least. My friends needs one here in the Georgia winter. :p

    GSDs should be fine as well as a Lab provided they have the correct coat type. Field bred Labradors tend to be extremely quick agile smart smart smart dogs. Enzo is out of field lines and all of her work is pretty snappy. Especially in comparison to my sisters Sibes. Knox is faster than her, but I'd think a Mal would be even faster to respond than him.
     
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    A good lab, ime and I have several as clients at work, are amazing dogs if you can handle a tough dog. Meaning, they can be stubborn. I really like them but they can be a headache if they are determined to do something that I disagree with. However, they do tend to be pleasers for the most part so they're not unreachable. Even my pet bred labs, both english bench and field style have very nice food and toy drives. They are great with other dogs and happy to be with people.

    We often discuss adding labs when we move to Oregon so I may be a bit bias. They are extremely hardy dogs that can out last every other breed in Alaskan hunt trials which speaks to their willingness to work, drive, stubbornness, climate tolerance, and stamina. Denis grew up in Alaska and trained labs for hunting and hunting trials. He's a huge fan of them and has converted me (well, my clients have helped but he did it first).

    I really like the red fox coloring. :)
     
  5. Lyzelle

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    Are farm/work bred similar to "field" bred? Or do you mean more along the lines of gun dogs?

    We have a LOT of Labs in this area, but they are all working farm dogs, sometimes crossed with Border Collies and ACDs. But there are still a lot purebred farm dogs around, and they guys rehome their culls that don't work out on the ranch. Most of the culls end up in the shelter, but sometimes you'll find them on craigslist at around a year old, saying that this particular dog or that one isn't cut out for farm work for whatever reason.
     
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    We have a few really nice field bred labs in our obedience club. One in particular - Kayna - is a POWERHOUSE. Here's his pedigree: http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=407447

    If I wanted a Labrador built lean and mean, with boundless energy and over-the-top drive, with a never-quit attitude.... I'd go with a dog from Platte Valley.

    Most of the farm-bred labs around here are just that - BYB labs bred on farms to be good farm dogs. Huge difference between those dogs, and the ones bred to work in the field. That's just my observation though.
     
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    ^ That's all good info. I tried looking up Platte Valley, and I came up with a club more than a breeder? I'm not sure if I saw a location, either.

    Has anyone here heard of Pretty Prairie Kennel (GSP breeder)? They are near me, but I've never really heard of them before.

    Oh, and if things are a little iffy on here concerning breeders, do please PM me.
     
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    CharlieDog Rude and Not Ginger

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    Do they have a website Sizzle? I'm planning on always having at least one retriever in my life lol, but I didn't know where to find another one built like I like. :p
     
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    I find that hilarious because none of the ones I've met were what I'd consider slow at all. Goes to show not all dogs are the same within the same breed. A lot of the ones in Moonsong are recommended to homes that will bike or run with them in fact.

    All the ones I've met were rescues/strays and all were just awesome. Very intelligent, stubborn, and loyal. They were orginally bred for hunting, usually one on one with their person and would help drag the kill back home. Most of the ones I've met were not trustworthy off lead in an unfenced area. Most aren't going to be fans of cats or small dogs either, but hey you are probably used to that. Very, very devoted to their people and very athletic for their size. Very much not couch potatos.

    You should talk to Moonsong Mals. You could foster a dog and see if the breed is right for you. I know they have fosters all through ID and UT... not sure about MT, but you never know unless you ask. They are very reputable as a rescue too. :)
    www.moonsongmals.org

    Or you could just go find a Sibe/GSD mix in the shelter. Pretty awesome dogs for someone who knows both breeds well. But then I'm very biased. ;)

    I've gotten bruised and stuff playing with my mostly GSD girl and my other girl who is 50/50 is way too careful and soft with the tug, unless its a plush squirrel lol.

    I've got more war wounds from my foster mini Aussie though. He's like a Maligator is an itty bitty herding dog package. Not even joking, he is ridiculous. :rolleyes: Has a better off switch though. Sometimes... :rofl1:
     
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    What about a standard poodle ;)
     
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    That's interesting, I'll definitely check them out!

    I've had a Sibe/GSD mix as well. ;) Met a few, too. Amazing dogs. I'm very much tempted to get one. :p But I've checked, and none are around here.

    I like standard poodles. Unfortunately, I don't like their hair! Lol.
     
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    What's about a Boxer??
     
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    Unfortunately, a boxer is something I'm never likely to own again. I had one when I was younger, named Tucker. He was never quite "right", actually ended up breaking his hip while in a kennel. He ended up passing away at 9 months due to unknown causes, although seizures certainly played a part and a blood clot to the brain was suspected. He was a one and only type of dog, like a heart dog, so another boxer isn't for me.
     
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    Irish wolf hound ?
     
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    OutlineACDs Crazy Dog!

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    ACD's fit the bill pretty well. I always try to steer people away, but you seem well eduacted and determined enough. :) Yes, some are mouthy. I allow a certain amount of mouthy with mine and I start as babies working on bite inhibition. Mouthing is only allowed if I initiate and if you get too rough or don't stop when I say, the games are over. I don't have any heel-nippers or car chasers. I'd suggest a rescue that the temperament is already determined and you can decide if the dog is a good fit, or a puppy from a good breeder. How the breeder keeps their dogs and what they do with them is important. Cattle dogs need lots of socialization, and I'd suggest getting one that's the opposite sex of the dog you already own.

    Also, after reading your list of traits, I'd say most any gun dog would be an excellent match too. Weimeraner's, German shorthaired pointer, brittany... etc. Most of the gun dogs are exactly what you're looking for.
     
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    Here's what I found:
    http://www.gundogbreeders.com/breeders-nebraska/platte-valley-retrievers.html

    Here are some pictures I found of Kanya. He's so fast, he's hard to photograph!

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    A lab should have NO trouble keeping up with a go go go lifestyle... trust me. NO trouble at all.

    Out of all of the dogs at the dog park, including Border collies, Aussies, Boxers Etc. My black lab is the fastest most "Go go go " Dog there. Seriously, No other dog ive met could touvh her in a race. Shes had hip problems since she was a small puppy and it doesnt slow her down. I should get a video of her someday. She is now two years old and has a good off swicth as well . But if i am on the go she is more then willing to join in. She can go and go for hours upon hours if allowed.
     
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    Why Ot Vitosha?

    To the OP, I think that a GSP would be a good fit. They are every other dog around here. Hardy dogs with generally good dispositions. A lot of people keep them as outdoor dogs (which I think is a crime in Iowa winters) so they much be pretty tolerant of temperature extremes.

    I do think that the right Malinois could be a good match, and echo the others with checking out breed rescue. The breed does vary a lot in temperament. My last Malinois had no off switch and was quite intolerant of people and animals outside the immediate family. My new pup so far seems quite social and sensible.

    Monkey, I know of an oops Malinois/Sibe litter and last I heard, there was one or two left. Mom is out of sled lines, dad is a working bred Malinois. Interested? :)
     

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