Boxer is first dog to have full genome revealed

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  1. Boxer*Mom

    Boxer*Mom It wasn't me

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    Link to below info. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8430

    Very Interesting. What do y'all think?

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    I hope this doesn't lead to more dogs be used for animal testing.

    Interesting story however.
     
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    Boxer*Mom It wasn't me

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    Amstaffer, I just wanted to take this opritunity to tell you that my hubby and I noticed how absolutely gorgeus Saladin is. He has such a distiguished face!!! Athena is beautiful too!
     
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    Thank you :eek:
     
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    WHOA! Too cool. That's neat! I can't wait until we have genetic tests to determine carries of hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia, and SAS. That would help my breed heaps! Maping the geneome is defintealy a closer step to this.
     
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    Animal testing sucks but is a necessary evil in some circumstances (e.g. testing lifesaving drugs) :( However I am not blind to the fact that some animal testing is just plain bizzare and merely to satasfy the cruel person rendering the test o.0 I don't support unnecessary animal testing but I believe that animals used in necessary tests did not suffer in vain and did a good service to mankind. And for that I think they should be honored, someway somehow.
     
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    I always try to find the "other" stance on certain subjects.... Therefore, here goes. I will not (and people who have read my posts in the past, know I won't pull a punch.)

    When I moved to Nevada, after my animal shows, I read this "ad" that was working with exotics....husbandry, enrichment etc... that's all it really said.

    I HAD to fax my resume in, within hours, I received a call....

    I went down there, pressed a button, stated my name and purpose there. I was buzzed in. Mind you, this whole area looks like a really nice warehouses, corporate...

    I was hired as a Vet. Tech II, which is just under a vet. Yes, it was a medical testing facility for monkeys.

    Now, before everyone gets upset, please keep reading. If any of you know me from my posts, than you will know my background and feelings. Yes, I took the job, which paid a lot of money, 401k, stocks, insurance etc....that was not my concern. My concern, was almost like an undercover reporter... I wanted, needed to see what this was all about.

    I am against fur...and cosmetic testing...NO DOUBT! This facility, which was like getting into NASA, was so clean, the people and vets so loving. Basically, they have monkeys to test for toxic medications. To see how much a human can handle. No, they did not let the monkeys die, they were treated so well, had a huge enrichment program and soooo very clean. Unfort. the monkeys are going to live and die there, that is why I couldn't do it forever, but they have found ways to help the monkeys, find ways to test a cancer drug, not hair spray or eye shadow.... Everyone was educated on a reg. basis. Plus, I had to wear bio-medical gear (tons...won't even go into that). These monkeys carry the herpes-B virus which is deadly to every human except maybe 1% (I know a guy and he sells his blood to help find a cure).
    I am not the kind of person who can make a career out of that, or become a vet, or a doctor....I can't handle that. I just rescue and train and love.

    But, I have to say, if it was not for these animals doing medical testing, we, including animals, would be screwed.

    Again, I took the job to get the insight and RIGHT information before I judged.

    Even though this is not the exact topic written, I hope everyone takes a moment of silence to "THANK" these precious creatures for unwillingly giving up their lives to help us humans and animals in general.
     
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    Well I am not going to be popular with my response but its my opinion so here it goes.....

    I feel testing animals in any way that causes them pain is wrong...Period. Why are we soooo arrogant as a species to think that we can torture other animals to make our lives better? I think one day we will look back at this period of history (animal testing) with shame. Animals are innocent and should not be abused. Why are we on some quest to live so long anyway. Why should we torture others just to add a few years to our own. A lot of the testing done isn't even to save lives anyway, it is to test things that support our vanity :( .

    Now this is where you guys will really get mad at me, but it is how I feel..... First, all of our test subjects (animals) are different than humans (dogs geneticlly are much different) so many of the tests done are later found to be worthless and animals are tortured for nothing. If we must test then why not use a subject that would be much closer or even the same?

    I was a Corrections officer for 9 years before I finished my degrees, and I knew many inmates who were serving life sentences without possiblity of parole. Several of those I spoke with said they would volunteer for testing in attempt to help repay society, get more privileges, for money to give their families and to beable to have conjugal visits. So we have perfect matches that volunteer for testing.....Why continue to test subjects who don't match us?

    If we ran out of volunteers I would also have no problem with testing inmates who have multiple murders and rapist or child molesters. I think they should be put to death anyway so why not use them to save and extend all the lives that the innocent animals are?

    Humans could tell you what hurts and would be way better subjects.

    Ok...let the flaming begin :) It sounds radical but if you calmly and logically think about it....It makes sense. If you get over the arrogance of our species and think logically doesn't it make more sense morally and scientifically.
     
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    All i have to say is I totally agree with you!
     
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    Yup it does. It's about the only reason I can see for keeping murderers and rapists around.
     
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    Amstaffer I agree about doing testing on inmates that are on death row, problem is there are too many human rights and red tape to cover everyone's arses, it will probably never happen. I don't think it's all about vanity however. You couldn't tell a child who is fighting cancer or aids that they are being vain for wanting for wanting to be healthy. Or someone who came in contact with the SARS virus, or avain flu, they are being vain for wanting to live to see another day with their family, without being deathly ill.

    I think it depends on which facility you go to of how the animals are housed and cared for and to what degree the bio-safety of the lab is that would allow them certain accomadations others would not be able to.
     
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    When I spoke of vanity, I meant testing for hair products, make-up etc....
     

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