Boston Marathon thread

[Beanie]

I can't stomach the TV drivel, link for suspect in custody? Here they're blabbering about the older brother who may have had a wife or girlfriend and wondering if she's in custody.

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Watertown


ETA: Can I just say that right now is probably not the time to be hashing out who's hate is worse?

 

[sparks19]

Citizens of the country are multiple races/beliefs/whatever. Just being one race does not mean you are not a citizen of the US, or can be "shipped out".

ETA: Had the "post reply" open when GM posted.

yes I'm aware.

thank god thank god thank god. I'm in tears.


I really hope it's just. over.

Thank God. I hope this is the end of it. Supposedly the older brother had a SO and possibly children? can't remember where I saw that.

Now let's hope little brother sings like a song bird

 

[sparks19]

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Watertown


ETA: Can I just say that right now is probably not the time to be hashing out who's hate is worse?

probably not the right time.

IMO, hate is hate is hate is hate and it's all destructive.

 

[Laurelin]

Hopefully the guy lives and then they can get him to talk.

 

[Oko]

I just really really hope it was just those two brothers responsible.

 

[Laurelin]

I just really really hope it was just those two brothers responsible.

Apparently they have several other people in custody. (I heard four)

 

[Greenmagick]

I know the older brother had a wife and baby...do not know the current status.

I believe her name was something like Stephanie Russell....eta: its Katherine. There was also a domestic assault charge against him and I believe it was related to her. I saw and interview with a room mate of hers who knew them both so cant say it was verfied

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

Apparently they have several other people in custody. (I heard four)

Interesting...

 

[Xandra]

I think part of the reason for the "white nutjobs are just nuts and brown nutjobs are just acting like they do" is that white nutjobs don't seem to collaborate with several others who encourage each other, fund each other, and then carry it out together. Usually it's one or two people. Presumably because it is hard to find like-minded people who are receptive to the idea of killing innocents.

9/11, 7/7 etc all involved collaboration of quite a few people to pull off. Which means people had to have enough confidence to propose it to multiple others, and apparently they were right to have confidence in these multiple people, because no one ratted them out and they convinced at least several to join them.

So a "lone wolf" vs a larger network... even if both are inspired by unique crazy ideologies.

I'm NOT saying that that makes it remotely OK to treat people like **** based on their skin color, or that when there are "lone wolf" 'brown' people that people aren't frothing at the mouth to tie them into the idea of some great 'brown' aggression against white people. Just that I think there are some things that can factor into the bias apart from ethnicity.

 

[Greenmagick]

Oops, it was Katherine

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/19/tamerlan-tsarnaev-wife-family_n_3119679.html

 

[Beanie]

Apparently they have several other people in custody. (I heard four)

The report right now is three people brought in for questioning, not suspects, and the widely believed theory is they are the younger brother's college roommates.

 

[Fran101]

Finally this nightmare is over!

I think part of the reason for the "white nutjobs are just nuts and brown nutjobs are just acting like they do" is that white nutjobs don't seem to collaborate with several others who encourage each other, fund each other, and then carry it out together. Usually it's one or two people. Presumably because it is hard to find like-minded people who are receptive to the idea of killing innocents.

9/11, 7/7 etc all involved collaboration of quite a few people to pull off. Which means people had to have enough confidence to propose it to multiple others, and apparently they were right to have confidence in these multiple people, because no one ratted them out and they convinced at least several to join them.

So a "lone wolf" vs a larger network... even if both are inspired by unique crazy ideologies.

I'm NOT saying that that makes it remotely OK to treat people like **** based on their skin color, or that when there are "lone wolf" 'brown' people that people aren't frothing at the mouth to tie them into the idea of some great 'brown' aggression against white people. Just that I think there are some things that can factor into the bias apart from ethnicity.

..are you seriously saying that white nutjubs, as a whole, haven't collaborated, funded, and worked together to kill a bunch of people?
really? you don't think that's common? Just as much or more-so than any other group?

Find your nearest history book and go ahead and peruse through it. You'll find a quite a few genocides that beg to differ. Like oh I dunno.. HITLER!
More recently the KKK, WBC and a bunch of other horrible group gang violence and hate crimes are just as easy to fish out.

Hate groups are not group/race/religion specific.
and to say that bias is ok because some cultures have it more often than others is wrong or that it is more likely in some than others is even more wrong.

with that, I am 100% done with this thread.
The suspects has been caught and there are some people outside partying

 

[MinPinOwner]

There were people cheering on the police. lol

 

[Greenmagick]

I cant imagine the relief the people in the area are feeling right now.

 

[sparks19]

..are you seriously saying that white people, as a race, haven't collaborated, funded, and worked together to kill a bunch of people?
really? you don't think that's common? Just as much or more-so than any other group?

Find your nearest history book and go ahead and peruse through it. You'll find a few genocides that beg to differ.
More recently the KKK, WBC and a bunch of other horrible group gang violence and hate crimes are just as easy to fish out.

Hate groups are not group/race/religion specific.
and to say that bias is ok because some cultures have it more often than others is wrong.

If you read her post she said that that did not make it OK and she is not saying that there is never white GROUPS just that the majority of recent mass killing events with white guys were lone wolf acts (OKC bombing, school shootings, amish schoolhouse massacre etc)

I get that you are upset but stop acting like everyone else is an idiot who isn't as enlightened. She was just posting an observation

 

[Fran101]

Merlin is so happy to be outside!! FREEDOM!!!!! :rofl1:

Looks like the bar around the corner is opening as well :rofl1: don't think I'm brave enough to venture in there

 

[sparks19]

There were people cheering on the police. lol

That is GREAT to hear

Glad to hear police getting the support they deserve

 

[Xandra]

Finally this nightmare is over!



..are you seriously saying that white nutjubs, as a whole, haven't collaborated, funded, and worked together to kill a bunch of people?
really? you don't think that's common? Just as much or more-so than any other group?

Find your nearest history book and go ahead and peruse through it. You'll find a quite a few genocides that beg to differ. Like oh I dunno.. HITLER!
More recently the KKK, WBC and a bunch of other horrible group gang violence and hate crimes are just as easy to fish out.

Hate groups are not group/race/religion specific.
and to say that bias is ok because some cultures have it more often than others is wrong or that it is more likely in some than others is even more wrong.

with that, I am 100% done with this thread.
The suspects has been caught and there are some people outside partying

I'm talking about mass murders in the west in recent history. I thought you were too.

 

[Paige]

After my most recent Facebook status someone tagged me in a photo(on a parenting page none the less) to state that the quarn states Muslims are modern day terrorists

 

[Fran101]

If you read her post she said that that did not make it OK and she is not saying that there is never white GROUPS just that the majority of recent mass killing events with white guys were lone wolf acts (OKC bombing, school shootings, amish schoolhouse massacre etc)

I get that you are upset but stop acting like everyone else is an idiot who isn't as enlightened. She was just posting an observation

white nutjobs don't seem to collaborate with several others who encourage each other, fund each other, and then carry it out together. Usually it's one or two people. Presumably because it is hard to find like-minded people who are receptive to the idea of killing innocents.

This is not saying that "in recent news" or "recent killings" this said, point blank, that white nutjobs don't seem to collaborate with several others. and regardless, murders and violence by hate groups largely composed of white people happen ALL THE TIME. A hate group is a hate group is a hate group, the media just doesn't sensationalize it or highlight their race because hey, media bias.
That's probably why you haven't heard about them more, because when groups or people kill and it's not of a certain minority race, it isn't highlighted.

Please read it again and maybe you will understand why I'm upset. The idea that it is somehow harder to find like minded people who are receptive to killing innocents in one race more-so than another, that the idea is spread around and accepted and nobody ratted anybody out because it's largely ok.. is INSULTING.

I am not trying to make people feel stupid and I'm sorry if that's how it's coming off but that right there is not an innocent observation or opinion based on recent happenings.

Perhaps her post is badly worded or she didn't mean it that way, and fine.

but take a moment and imagine what it would feel like if someone was like "well, it's just easier to find people like you who are willing to go kill innocent people, you know?"

It
friking
hurts.

I am not trying to be enlightened, I am not trying to make people feel dumb I am trying to express that maybe the things you are saying are hurtful.