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  1. bubbatd

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    news just now in Indy. Lovely white dog, in a cage with loving big eyes and sweet smile................only problem...he attacked a mail carrier (female today ) ....crashed through the screen door and ripped her arm in three places. They interviewed her with blood soaked shirt and pants. He's at the control center until his fate is decided . Once again, because of the owners (probably) this boy will be put down. It's real problem here . They are bought for the wrong reason and never trained properly. So sad !
     
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    Its never the dogs fault always an owner? Interesting. A dog can do no wrong.


    I love the hypocracy of pit bull owners/supporters.
     
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    AW! That's so sad!!! I can't believe that.....
     
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    A dog relies on it's owners to teach it right from wrong. It's the owner's fault for not teaching their dog. And, yes, I'm a Pit Bull lover.
     
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    That's really sad....although what if it was a genetic thing or some kind of medical problem. Is that a possiblity?
     
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    Training goes only skin deep, the genetics go far deeper.
     
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    I am a pitbull owner. I do not agree with you whatsoever orion. It is not the dogs fault. He could not help if he was bred wrong, or mistreated, or teased by the mail carrier. Who knows how the attack occured. I seriously doubt the pitbull got up this morning and decided to attack the mail lady. It is up to the owners to properly train their pits (or any breed of dog) how to behave properly. Pitbulls are EXCEPTIONAL family dogs. Well known on being able to tolerate the rough and tumble play of kids. They are extremely people loyal (friendly). Who knows the circumstances on why this dog attacked. Maybe this dog had been mistreated, or the mail lady might have teased the dog. I have seen mail carriers tease dogs around here (I live close to Indy) so I know it happens.
     
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    Any pitbull that attacks a human is a poorly bred pit. In this case, you are probably right. I was refering more to the dog agression.

    I do agree that pitbulls if properly bred make wonderful pets, but for their notoriety as a fighter. Majority of them being bred right now are NOT properly bred.
     
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    I agree with Julie 100%. Now, if he had been a cocker, nobody would've been bothered to put him on the news, but since he's a Pit Bull.....the story has to make the front page :mad:
     
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    According to the story, she had put the mail in the box on the front porch and was 1/2 way down the walk when he crashed through. I really doubt she teased him and it must have been a surprise as they carry mace.
     
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    I wasn't saying she did tease him, it was just a possibility. I have seen the mail carriers and garbage men being mean to the neighborhood dogs around here. I keep my pit mix inside when I know the mail person or the garbage men will be around. Sorry orion, I misunderstood you.
     
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    I've caught mail carriers, garbage pick-up, UPS, Fed-Ex, cops, ad nauseum teasing my dogs and other dogs far too many times to think it doesn't happen. I've seen them mace dogs who were sitting quietly and ignoring them, then walk away laughing while the dog howled in pain . . . reported a few too. Cost a few of them their jobs . . .

    No excuse for things like that. Not only is it cruel, it creates a fear of uniforms in these dogs and that fear often manifests against someone wearing the same uniform who would never dream of tormenting an animal.
     
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    Renee, I agree. My Goldens were always free when we lived on 8 wooded acres in the country...... no problems with any delivery people. One day when the UPS truck came my female went nuts...scared and barking. I spoke to the driver, my regular and he loved my dogs, and said I couldn't understand her attitude ! He told me my last delivery was with a substitute driver who was afraid of dogs! ( I wasn't home ) Lord knows what he did to Copper !!! My regular then brought dog bones and let her get into the truck etc....and slowly she wasn't afraid of that big brown truck again. Poor Baby !!! I called UPS to just ask, but they weren't sure who was the driver. Doesn't take much to undo faith and so much patience to regain .
     
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    Not sure where i stand on the pit bull issue, but it seems like that is the only breed in the news for the last few years (other than pressa canarios). conicindence or just the media picking on a breed it knows well?
     
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    Yeah sure the pits ARE in the news every single time they do something wrong. Sometimes it isn't even a pit that does the attack, or whatever happened, it is just assumed that it is a pit because it was mean. Some dogs are really familiar looking to the pitbull and people just assume that is what they are. Sometimes if a dog is just a certain color people will assume they are pits. It is just the media doing this to put more unwanted attention on a breed that is struggling so hard. I guess they feel the more cities, towns, and states the dog is banished from the better.
     
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    Its sad when that stuff happens.

    what is mace?
    Quote: Renee750il
    I've seen them mace dogs who were sitting quietly and ignoring them
     
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    it's like pepper spray. I think it like temporarily blinds them and makes their eyes sting and water really bad. Plus it gets into their nose and they have trouble breathing.
     
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    Speaking of Hypocrisy, how come when it is a Akita mix who attacks a jogger it (according to your early post in another thread http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5803 ) is the jogger's fault? If you check out the link in my sig. you will find that pitbulls (even poorly bred ones) are consistently more stable and less likely to attack the most other dogs.

    Every time these reports come in on pitbulls attacking there is evidence of abuse when the reporter cares to do some research. I challenge anyone to find stats that support the idea that pitbulls are more human aggressive than any other breed.

    I have witnessed many dogs rescued from fighting rings that have turned out to be fine with people (Many do remain dog aggressive). So it is Nuture and training much more than Genetics. People don't seem to understand or want to understand that Pitbulls were never bred to be people aggressive.

    The whole pitbull media frenzy is just hype meant to catch headlines. When Pitbulls do something positive reporters won't even mention the breed name. Also sometimes when the report comes in of a pitbull attack you see the pictures and it turns out to be a Lab or some other breed. Some reporters just think anything that attacks is a pitbull.

    Siemens716 -- You are not alone a lot of dog lovers who are very rational have been influenced by the media hype. Please check out the link in my sig. It is not my website but it is a very informative website. The Media picks on Pitbulls just like it loves to put a black man on the news as the bad guy. We have tons of White Guys (FYI I am a White guy) stealing us blind or creating unsafe work conditions** that result in death but the media doesn't cover that, they want to maintain the exciting dangerous black man Stereotype.

    The Pitbull is no different. In dog bites the Pitbull is consistently in the bottom 1/4 and pass the Humane Society tempermant test over 80% of the time (higher than the beloved Golden Ret.) Please don't believe the hype and help educate others.

    also your Ridgeback is very majestic looking :)

    **White collar crime costs us more in money and lives every year than Street crime. (Shepard and Greene)
     
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    Siemens, I've seen stories about 'Pit Bulls' that showed a photo of the dog and the dog was far from being a Pit. If it bites, it's called a Pit. I hope it's ignorance on the part of the parties publishing the stories or furnishing the information, and not a purposeful misinformation aimed at sensationalism.

    Like the Presa Canario story in San Francisco: those dogs were cross bred with Presas and raised and trained to be vicious, but did the press continue reporting those facts once the story had taken hold? No! Suddenly the dogs became pure Presa Canarios - it made it sound like it was a problem that could be solved by getting rid of a certain breed of dog - instead of what it truly is, a problem that was caused by a certain "breed" of human.

    Stories don't get aired or read anymore unless they carry some emotional punch - and we've been conditioned to cringe at the thought of a Pit, or a German Shepherd (they are used to catch bad guys, so they must be dangerous, right? :rolleyes: ), or a Rottweiler or something that sounds big and exotic - and dangerous, so those stories get lots of attention.

    When was the last time you heard a series of unrelated stories about people dying in hospitals because they've contracted a deadly staph infection while being treated? It happens, more than you'd like to think, but you aren't going to hear about it. How many times does a domestic violence story that results in a death get hashed out for days or weeks on the national media? It happens somewhere virtually everyday, but it's not a real life "Cujo" story.

    It's all a matter of manipulating the public . . .
     
  20. bridey_01

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    Genetics, ha. Pit bulls were actually purposfully bred to be people FRIENDLY. This was a bit of an advantage to the person who had the task of seperating dogs in the pit.
    Any dog can be aggressive, any dog can bite. No matter what the breed, it is ALWAYS the humans fault. If the dog has gotten to the stage that it is biting and showing obvious signs of aggression (obviously through a lack of socialisation and knowledge on the owners part) then the owner should **** well keep him away from the postal lady. And don't tell me that it's because he was a pit bull, and that breed is "unstable". Pit bulls are wonderful creatures with great loyalty and intelligence. I've trained so many beautiful pits that were subjected to such awful prejudice.
     

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