albino dogs

Discussion in 'The Dog Breeds' started by poeluvr, Jun 3, 2005.

  1. poeluvr

    poeluvr New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    1,905
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    3-
    what do you guys think of them. i heard ppl put them down when their pups cuz they can have health problems?
     
  2. Renee750il

    Renee750il Felurian

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2003
    Messages:
    94,266
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3, Bimmer, GSDX (m); Kharma, Fila Brasileiro (f);
    Location:
    Where the selas blooms
    Home Page:
    In the Aussie breed there's a gene that carries the blue merle color. The color is highly prized, but it also carries blindness and deafness with it as well as other potential health problems. Some very unethical breeders will breed two blue merles together in hopes of getting blue merle pups. Very often there will be pups in the litter born with these defects and they are usually killed - hence the term "lethal white" for the gene. I had one of these Aussies for many years. I rescued him literally minutes before he would have been put down at the shelter. No one wanted a blind puppy but me. O'Reilly was one of the most joyful, most fearless, loving, wonderful creatures I've ever known. If you've got a fenced in yard where a blind dog pup can run safely, SAVE A LIFE! They can be wonderful companions.

    And if anyone tries to come in uninvited in the dark . . . you couldn't ask for a better guardian, lol!
     
  3. poeluvr

    poeluvr New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    1,905
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    3-
    lol.. theres a pic of a albino pup in pupy pictures
     
  4. joce

    joce Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2005
    Messages:
    4,448
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    6
    Location:
    Ohio
    Its bad in dobes. Although I guess the white is technically not albino.

    I always feel bad for them though because most have sunburns and other skin issues.

    I have heard of people ptting pups like that down because they don't want people to know there dogs carry the genes. My friend got two rotts by taking them the day after they were born. The lady was just going to kill them becaue they were red(which is a beautifull color on hers but NOT breed standered). The pup that lived had horrible hip dysplasia by the time it was two. Its sad. I'm not sure if it is still alive or not.Some people just shouldn't be able to own dogs.
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2005
  5. poeluvr

    poeluvr New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    1,905
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    3-
    wow thats tough
     
  6. EliNHunter

    EliNHunter New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2004
    Messages:
    3,836
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    1 dog, 2 cats
    Location:
    Indianapolis
    But are albino's always blind? And do they always have health problems? I thought it was just where they were missing the "pigment" gene?
     
  7. Renee750il

    Renee750il Felurian

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2003
    Messages:
    94,266
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3, Bimmer, GSDX (m); Kharma, Fila Brasileiro (f);
    Location:
    Where the selas blooms
    Home Page:
    They aren't always, but it seems that the genes that carry the code for light and missing pigmentations are tied to coding for other genetic malfunctions. They don't always show up, but they are carried and when the recessive gene dogs are bred, the recessive genes that match up will manifest.
     
  8. GSDFan05

    GSDFan05 New Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    What's really sad is when breeders use those "lethal white"/"double merle" dogs as puppy factories to make money, because genetically you're guaranteed to get the popular merle coat color in all of their pups, since it's a dominant gene. I believe this is a problem with collies and a couple more breeds with merle coats also.
     
  9. Swiftwind

    Swiftwind Harley & Abby

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Messages:
    375
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    2
    Location:
    Australia
    Home Page:
    I never knew merle was a 'dangerous' colour. All of the Aussies I've seen in real life have always been merle, I wasn't even aware that they came as tri-coloured. What about merle Great Danes? Is it just as bad to breed two of them together?

    By the way, I thought for an animal to be classified as true albino it had to have pink eyes, because if it has blue eyes that means it has some pigment.
     
  10. GSDFan05

    GSDFan05 New Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    It isn't 'dangerous' for a dog to be heterozygous merle, its just when a dog recieved the merle genes from each parent that 'strange' things start to happen, genetics is a funny thing sometimes.

    I have never heard of a double merle great dane, but I would imagine it's possible, that's a good question.
     
  11. Swiftwind

    Swiftwind Harley & Abby

    Joined:
    May 29, 2005
    Messages:
    375
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    2
    Location:
    Australia
    Home Page:
    Ah, ok! Thanks for explaining! :) Colour genetics can get quite complicated sometimes! :D
     
  12. gaddylovesdogs

    gaddylovesdogs no touchy

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2005
    Messages:
    6,125
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I dislike that many of these are killed because of their color. While I agree that they shouldn't be bred, they should be given good, loving homes.
     
  13. GSDFan05

    GSDFan05 New Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2005
    Messages:
    187
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You're right, I know somene with a double merle Aussie (deaf and sight-impaired) and that dog is one of the sweetest, most loving and happy dogs I've ever met. It's irresponsible to breed dogs that can produce pups like that, but once they're here I think they deserve just as much love and care as any other dog, they don't know they're 'abnormal'.
     
  14. poeluvr

    poeluvr New Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2005
    Messages:
    1,905
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    3-
    people like that who rotat4e their lives against breeding are supposed to love dogs if they kill their pups, and still call themselves breeders they should be fined! its animal cruelty. i have heard of breeders on forums say they had to put one down cuz "it didnt come out right" , and she took it very lightly and acted as though since she was such a good breeder she couldnt be seen with blind pups in her litter, she seemed to make a lot of money of her breeding too, which makes me disgusted/!
     
  15. RedHotDobe

    RedHotDobe aka RedHotBabe

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2004
    Messages:
    4,366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Maryland
    They are albinos. The BYBs have their whole argument as to why they are white and not true albinos. It's all lies, but they could go on and on with it. I don't have a website to explain this one though. Will go look at the PEC again. :)
     
  16. RedHotDobe

    RedHotDobe aka RedHotBabe

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2004
    Messages:
    4,366
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Maryland

Share This Page