I really didn't intend this to become an shouting match, I was just looking for help on this issue because I know its coming. Not everyones ethical views on the do's and dont's of dog breeding.
However, let me answer some questions.
tessa_s212 said:
It is not about pure breed or mixed... It is about RESPONSIBLE BREEDING. Give me ten examples of responsible mixed breed breeders. I bet that will be hard.
Well that depends, do you want past or present.
If you want present, then your right, I have no idea of any. Except for perhaps the breeders I got my dog from. They normally breed purebred pomeranians and chiuauas, this was just one of those mixes that are becoming popular.
If you want past, that is easy. Just pick any 10 purebreds and look back at their originator.
tessa_s212 said:
Are you even considering health checking? What about titles? Has your dog earned any agility, obedience, CGC, TDI, or any other sort of title to be proven breeding "worthy"?
The health checking is not a problem. Have a brother that is a vet that runs his own clinic and kenel, so all vet visits are free. As for the certifications, as I have just started looking into it, I am not familiar with many. However, from the ones you listed I know that I would most likely not be able to get CGC, as it is an AKC certification and mixes aren't recognized by the AKC. As for the others, I don't know. I don't think agility or obedience will be a problem, he has been able to sit, laydown, and fetch since he was 3 months and I really haven't started any formal training for him yet, I like to wait until six months. Agility, I am not sure what that entails exactly to be certified in that, I would have to look that one up. I do know that at 4 months and about 8 inches tall, he can jump over a 30 inch baby gate with ease, and can jump, grab on with his feet, and climb over a 40 inch one. Which is another issue entirely =).
tessa_s212 said:
Will you have a puppy contract? Will you scan your buyers? Will the puppies be spayed and neutered, or have a spay/nueter contract? (Even pure bred puppies that are not breeding quality are sold on these!) What if one of your puppies ended up in a kill shelter? Would you take it back? Are you prepared for emergencies that can happen when giving birth? What if the bitch dies? What if one of the puppies becomes very ill only days after you sell it? What will you do?
Again, things I haven't decided upon as I haven't decided to breed the dog yet. However, in the past, the puppies\kittens I have had and have given away. I have given them to people I know or checked out myself (at the very least go to their house and see how they live). I have taken back any that the owners didn't want, even months later (only twice when this actually happened), and I have always told the new owner to call me or bring them back if there are any problems. As most of you are aware, that if the new owner doesn't want to keep you informed of the dog/kittens progress, you cant do anything about it. So I can't say with 100% certainty that no dog/cat I have ever given away has not gone to a shelter, or been abandoned. Then again, I wouldn't guess that anyone would be able to. As for the health related things, I don't foresee a problem, as I have access to free vet and kenel service.
tessa_s212 said:
Breeding dogs is very serious. And if you breed this dog(note: I said 'dog', not 'mixed breed') without enforcing spay/nueter contracts YOU WILL be only adding to the overpopulation of dogs in kill shelters. And then YOU, in fact, will be part of the PROBLEM.
As I stated above, I haven't worked everything out. I have just started looking into it. The pup is a good year or so away from the time that I would consider him ready to breed, and I haven't even started looking for him a mate. When I feel I have really looked into it well enough is when I will decide. I am just giving myself the option to do so right now. I very well may go back and change my mind.
Gallien Jacks said:
First i am a she not a he
Sorry about that, took a guess. Just guessed wrong.
Gallien Jacks said:
secondly breeding is not just about pure or cross, its about titles and health and temperment and breeding to better the breed not just because you want some puppys around or you want to make money or because you think your dog is cute and want one just like him. When breeding you take a look at the generation, you will know what each dog was like there health and temperment are a majior factor in breeding so that whover you sell the pups too know that you have done everything to ensure they own a healthy tempermently sound dog that isnt going to cause them heart ake.
I have answered most of these questions in the above portion. With the exception of knowing the breed. I looked for this mix in particular, because I had already had experience with one (another familiy member has a 3 year old Chimarian). What I have experienced of the dog, they are very smart, very loving dogs. Perfect for house dogs. Mine will even get up in the middle of the night, go to the bathroom on his own, and then come back to bed without bothering me or my wife. Also, I didn't base my decision solely off of him. There are several websites that talk about specific mixes. As I stated above, he seems to be one of the more popular mixes, with the poodle mixes and yorkie mixes a bit higher on the list.
Gallien Jacks said:
Sent marking doesnt just happen because they live with another dog, do you not realise how sensitive a dogs nose is? it will mark its territory even if another dog has walked past its house.
I realize completely. Dogs have been known to smell their owners from several miles away. I was just looking into a way to discourage this behavior.
Gallien Jacks said:
In future do not bring people into you converstaion when you know nothing about them!
Actually you brought yourself into this conversation. You were just the only other person in the thread who I knew recently had a litter of puppies, your signature shows that.
Now from the two or three helpful posts in this thread, I gather it is impossible to prevent this behavior, and that no one on this board has every suceeded in preventing a non neutered male from marking inside their house. Is that correct?