Discussion in 'The Breeding Ground' started by Purdue#1, Oct 8, 2006.
How do they "create" a miniature of a breed? my father wanted to know.
depends on the breed, with mini aussies, they started by breeding smaller to smaller, and while some probably still breed to some standard dogs for diversity in bloodlines, most now breed mini to mini which keeps the small size going.
Now I've 'heard' the toy aussies, some have gone to the toy size, throw in pomeranian to downsize faster. Alot of the "toy" aussies I've seen have snipey heads/noses, and pom faces..
So basically I would say, when you see "mini",,they have breed them smaller to smaller dogs, to end up with the 'mini' whatever.
Don't mess with Mother Nature !
thanks.The woman that recomended us to the obedience class that we go to has 1 female mini aussie that she takes to the class. The male stays at home. It is sponsored by the Heart Humane Society in Ky.
many iresponsible people are now mixing toy breeds (mostly chis) into a line to create "MINIS" however these people are just as bad as those creating "desighner mutts"
minuturizing a breed must be done VERY carefully and usually takes a long long time...
She bought her dogs from someone in the area. I'd never saw one until i saw her female. Looks like my dog, but 6 in. tall. i'm not sure, but i thinks on breeding them next year
I thinks she plans on breeding them next year. Sorry about the spelling error.
A six inch tall mini aussie?!
Yes, mini aussies registered with NAMASCUSA should have all mini aussie lines and standard aussie lines but you do often see the "toy" breeds with pom in them. They're pretty gross looking. Luckily NAMASCUSA discourages domed heads and other "toy" qualities.
What can happen if if a breeder with money sends a great looking rep of the breed out as a puppy and it wins big as a puppy they are less forgiving since they say oh will grow taller then when it turns out to be a mini adult if the right judges or breeders get behind it they get the club to change teh standard....and not to long everyone follows suit- until someone comes along and decides lets create MINI dogs.
I bred a runt 1 inch under the standard she is spayed here with me.
They first got "mini aussies" by selectively breeding dogs on the small end of the standard. The problem is when you are only breeding for one trait the rest often get overlooked like temperament, health, work ability etc Most aussie people cringe at the talk of "minis" and agree that breeding minis is just another form another of bybing / unethical breeding. It's no different than a doodle or a "teacup" whatever ____ (insert favorite miniaturised, screwed up breed)
Anyone who has owned an aussie knows that it isn't the size of the dog that adds the work or adds any headache- it's the herding drive, the need to work, the energy etc
I have also heard about people breeding in shelties with aussies to make minis.
I hadn't yet heard of breeding in poms to make toy aussies. Pathetic
The funniest thing is when you meet someone with a smallish aussie and you say "Oh an aussie" and they say "a MINI aussie" as if that's somehow better or more exclusive, when really it's just a runty, poorly bred aussie who has probably had bred out much of what makes an aussie a great dog.
Oh gee I went on a bit of a rant eh? OOPS. I guess it hits closer to home when it's your heart breed
don't look gross to me. she said it was toy. just about 10lbs. the male will be a little bigger.
I don't agree with the toy aussies, I know they've thrown 'whatever' into creating the toy aussies, I' have seen ONE that I honestly thought was cute.
Toys actually should be taller than 6",,I believe 12" is what they go around, but don't quote me on that.
The mini's,,well I don't have a problem with them as long as the breeder IS responsible in selectively breeding, and there are some out there..I have a friend with 4, and every single one of them I'd take home..Mini can be decieving, hers while small, aren't really much smaller than my standard sized aussies @ 21"..My feeling tho is this,,if I want a "small" aussie,,I can certainly find one within the "standard" breeders out there..Size isn't a real big issue within the "standard" aussies , atleast judging wise..It isn't as strict as with other breeds which I happen to like..There are more important things to consider in the "standard" aussie than size.
Come to think of it, her aussie does look a little weird. instead of looking smooth like a mini or regular aussie, she looks like a box. She's square in shape.
I have confirmed that she is breeding them next year sometime in august.
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