A good muzzle for 24/7 wear?

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  1. frostfell

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    I have a 1 year old Am Bully *glare* that has taken it in her head to hoover everything in sight like some kind of PICA shark, and after today wherein she ate a huge wad of playdoh, half a roll of paper towels, 5 rolls of poop bags, and some dry pancake mix, I am DONE. Also Im out of peroxide.

    What is a good style of muzzle for keeping things out of mouths, that still allows panting and drinking, and is light and comfortable?
     
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    Crating and better supervision
     
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    That is not what I asked
     
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    I really like Baskerville muzzles for their comfort/long term wear. However, having only used it on my non-hoovering dog, I don't know if it would successfully prevent them eating/chewing things with the muzzle on. I've shoved small treats through the muzzle for him, but as he refuses to eat things that aren't food, I don't really have any experience there. Baskervilles are definitely my top choice as far as comfort and durability and fitting and everything goes!
     
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    A Baskerville Ultra muzzle would be quite comfortable (as far as muzzles go) but I can't think of any muzzle that allows a dog to drink while wearing it.
     
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    well pewp. i looked at those and they dont come in shapes for extremely short wide muzzles. the length of snout she needs would be so narrow it wouldnt even go ON. so far with googling, the only ones iv found that come in a boxer/pitbull/rottie/brachy "style" are wire basket muzzles by leerburg, and i dont want wire, i dont think that would be very comfortable at all
     
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    We walk a pittie at work that wears a muzzle when out because he eats EVERYTHING (I mean like..rocks.. gravel..dirt.. garbage.. ) and he is strong enough to pull us towards what he wants.
    I will try to check out the brand when I walk him tomorrow because he also has quite a short snout
    I may be mistaken but I'm pretty sure it's dean & tyler.. it is black with silver wire. He can pant and it seems comfortable for him (it has soft felt on certain parts so it doesn't rub his nose)

    and I think certain people who keep their dogs outside in kennels need to roll back the attitude on how to manage indoor dogs better.
     
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    UUUUUGGGHHHH OMG thats exactly her. bloody weirdo dogs! as i was googling and reading replies just now, i caught her with her head behind some suitcases in my closet and she came out holding a fork. A FORKING FORK. she gave it up in exchange for her wubba but thank god she didnt try to eat THAT. the playdoh was enough of a scare

    i refuse to crate my dog when im sitting right here interacting with them, infact i refuse to crate her at all except when im actually leaving the house. normal dogs are allowed to walk around my house and look at things and sniff things and go places like hallways, behind beds, and in kitchens. the fact that shes inhaling (its that fast) things that are ordinary household objects (like a roll of doggie pewp bags) and not food, is not reason to take away her rights to be a member of my family and exist freely. crating is boring and awful and when other dogs are allowed to be out, downright mean, and if i had a chain space or land, id rather she be out in THAT when im not here, and i will not let somebody, anybody, i dont care how their dogs live, make me feel guilty for giving my dog freedom to engage her brain and be a normal person
     
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    I like our Baskerville. Wouldn't ever do a 24/7 muzzle, though. Maybe have an ex pen to keep her in while you're around but not actively watching her some of the time, and alternate that and the muzzle?
     
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    Supervision.
     
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    I don't think anyone's saying NOT to supervise the dog. It's just...you can't be on top of the dog 100% of the time, which then means tethering/crating a lot, which isn't always fair.

    Yes, supervise the dog. Yes, control the environment to make things inaccessible to the dog. Yes, crate/expen/tether the dog. And yes, muzzle the dog when the above things aren't an option. There is more than one way to manage a situation. And I would much rather see a dog managed in a variety of ways, including a muzzle, than being rushed to an emergency vet because he swallowed a fork.
     
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    I think the Jafco recommendation looks like a really good one, so I think you've had really good advice already, but I wanted to ask if you've had a veterinary behaviourist involved? This doesn't sound like normal behaviour to me and I would consider making that investment if you haven't already.
     
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    Aye i looked at those also but they dont have anything short and broad enough for her. Shes got a 2" muzzle length and a 11" circ, which means the muzzle ought to be 13-15" circumference so she can pant. lereburg wire baskets and that tyler and somethignsomething are the only ones iv found that are short and wide
     
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    If you have a dog with serious pica, muzzling really is the best/most responsible thing to do. I swear it is. No one can supervise a dog who has a strong desire to swallow non-food items well enough to keep them safe. It's honestly a life or death situation 24/7, that would require the dogs being crated or kept on a traffic lead day in and day out. Someone I know has a rock eater and he ate another rock within days of recovering from surgery from... Yep eating rocks. With her standing jet a few feet from him watching him closey in the back yard. She knew he grab it but couldn't get it off of him fast enough.

    As for muzzles, most wire basket muzzles allow dogs to drink and pant. I'm not sure the Baskerville will prevent them from eating stuff entirely, as its designed to allow them to take treats. It's a lot more open in the front than most muzzles. Roust is able to grab a chicken back and carry while wearing his.
     
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    I have a friend with a frenchie that eats EVERYTHING. She has a muzzle from here that she says works extremely well for her dog. They can customize based on your dogs measurements.

    http://www.dog-muzzles-store.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=3

    I haven't used them, this is just based on my friends recommendation.
     
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    Kastle wore this for almost a month and while I did remove it for him to eat, he drank and panted etc with it on just fine.

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    This is where Kastle's came from - I'm very happy with it!
     

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