Do I have a Dudley Lab?

We just got a new yellow lab girl yesterday and she's sweet as can be. She has an all pink nose (a little brown at the bottom, near her lips) and she doesn't have any black around her eyes our mouth. Does this make her a Dudley then? I'm just curius!

Thanks in advance!

Yes, I do believe so.

I ADORE dudley labs. They are just so cute and sweet looking.

The Dudleys I've seen have more pronounced pink around the eyes ....the nose could be a snow nose .....cute whatever !

Looks like you have a very light yellow Lab with a snow nose, meaning it will darked back up when the weather gets warmer. What makes me say that is her eyes are dark, and so are her eye rims. Dudleys have terracota colored noses, eye rims and lips, and gold eyes.

eta pictures:
Mick was a dudley. It's hard to see in the picture, but his eyes were gold. Mick's lips were the same color as his nose and eye rims/lids.


Caleb is yellow with a snow nose. He's even lost some pigment at the corner of his eyes this winter. He has dark brown eyes, and black lips.


edited again to add- really good, dark pigment is hard to get in yellow Labs. Sometimes it takes awhile for it to darken up, too. Caleb still had a little pink spot in the corner of his one eye when we picked him out. Your new girl is a cutie. How old is she?

here's a good link:

http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/yellow-pigment.html

Nope, she's not a Dudley. She just has a snow nose and a lot of pink pigment outside her eyerims. See how the rims around her eyes are black? I call it "eyeliner." You can also tell by the black/brown pigment at the edges of her nose and the black pigment on her lips.

Here is a good example of a Dudley (he or she is red, which sets it off a bit more): (Open both of these in tabs if you can, the actual images are too huge to post!)
And a chocolate, so you can see a comparison:
See how they both have that pink pigment all over the skin that is showing? It can be paler pink or even a dark brown, but it's never black pigment. A Dudley lab is simply a Chocolate with two copies of the 'yellow' gene (e) that restricts dark pigment (melanin) in the coat.

Here is a link explaining: http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/yellow-pigment.html

good info! Thanks!

I see now - thanks so much for all that interesting info on dudleys - so cool! Looks like she may just be a fair yellow with lighter skin but not a true dudley. I just adore labs and she's going to be a great addition to our home. We already have a chocolate (6 yrs.)

Emily is just 3 months old...and so big already!

congrats on the pretty girl! I love labs too--my girl is 12 years old!

WOW only 3 months? She's huge!

I think it's interesting that at such a young age she already is losing pigmentation in her nose.. not a bad thing, though, and it certainly makes her even more adorable!

She's cute! I've got a Lab as well, though she's black. She'll be my only Lab :lol-sign:

After looking at her pictures a few more times, it looks to me like the pigment hasn't come through all the way on her nose yet, instead of having come through then lightened up.

She sure is a cutie!

watch that loose eyerim she has...prime place for grass seeds to get lodged, esp if she'll be doing any sort of field work, etc...cute pup!

I noticed that too. I'm taking her to the vet on Wednesday for her next round of shots, etc. and I want to make sure she doesn't have pinkeye. She has pretty droopy eyes. She won't be doing any field work, but I'll have to keep an eye on it regardless. Thanks for your input!

No problem! It could just simply be ectropion which happens sometimes. If it's not the actual conjuctiva swollen and there's no discharge it might just "be'.

Have fun with your pup!

i just googled ectropian and that seems like what it is - hopefully she'll grow into her skin and it will get better as she gets bigger. her eyes are a little runny, but not bad. We'll see. Although pure bred, she's not exactly a perfect lab as breed standards go. So I wouldn't be surprised if she had a few 'flaws' like that - which of course just make her all the more special to me.

She looks to me like she is a chocolate yellow. Dudley is generally a term used when the pigment doesn't fill into the nose or the nose fades (not sure if this applies to labs but it is that way in goldens). Your dog appears to be genetically chocolate and yellow, instead of genetically black then restricted to be yellow. This will make the pigment faded and give the coat a milky look. These dogs often have green eyes as puppies that darken when they get older to a gold or gold-brown.

An interesting thread about dudleys on a lab site...for those interested.

http://www.lab-retriever.net/board/dudleys-breeding-t7270335.html?t=7270335

Dudley is a chocolate lab that is also yellow. Pink noses are called snow nose, not dudley.

Thanks for that link!

What a pretty girl you have!