Rottweiler Mauls Baby to Death

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Just to add: I didn't think this was worth another thread.

Today, a new Deadly Dog attack here in Detroit. 3 people dead in 24 hours... 2 people were found dead, Mauled to death by a pack of dogs. I'm afraid to even mention what breed they were... But it's Detroit. You can probably guess. Link available upon request.
I guess I am too curious (not about breed, but about the story). I want the link!!
 

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ahh, i will never have a party at my house because I freak out someone will hurt the dogs or let them out or soemthing. Like I'd bring a baby aswell.

it also said
Authorities said the dog's 19-year-old owner had brought the animal to the gathering and turned it over to police.
Maybe the dog had no idea about babies? not saying lack of socialisation is an excuse. Why the hell ywould you bring your dog to a party, it would most likly be stressed out etc. They'd only had the dog three weeks


They are talking about charges for the owner of the dog aswell which is a start.
 
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Good lord, today the pack of Pit Bulls killed two people. I dont know why people breed those dogs. This baby is so tragic
 
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Do not DARE come on here and blame number one, the incorrect BREED for an attack, these were American Bulldogs, no where near a "pitbull", nor condemn people for breeding a certain breed. Most people breed dogs who never harm a person.

The stupid irresponsible person who let 10 of these large dogs roam in a pack to pillage and kill is responsible for the needless horrible death of these 2 people, and they should be punished as such. It is NO reflection on the breed. Only on the people who owned them, and SHOULD have managed them.

I"m sorry, but your ignorant comments do nothing for the matter, nor do the mitigate the awful tragedies that 3 families are enduring right now.
 

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One, they weren't 'pit bulls' they were American Bulldogs. Two, there were 10 of them running loose, so I don't think the breed has much of anything to do with the problem. Anyone who allows 10 dogs to run loose, especially in an area where there are other people ('farm' must not have been to far out in the country) is wildly irresponsible. So irresponsible that I think its a safe bet the dogs weren't trained either.
 
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I see lots of "Pit Bull Attack" topics on the board... Nobody yells at them...

*grumble grumble...*

But of course, I do see your point. I hate seeing "Pit Bull attack" all over Detroit's news all the time, especially because most of the time, it's not even a Pit Bull.
Yeah I hate to see the breed singled out in any attack article, especially APBTs though.

Just a thought:

On another forum we don't post any negative articles about the APBT because there are already so many out there, we don't want to contribute to the negative press. I know it's sort of a form of censorship but since so much awful breed specific newstories are already out there for APBTs and Rottweilers why not think about not posting them here as sort of a rule of thumb? Regardless of how we feel or how unprejudiced Chaz members are, someone else may read this article we posted and say "See, I told you about those darned viscous Rottweilers" and I'm sure no one here wants to contribute to that. People tend to do research via Google these days for everything...and since this is a public forum we are just offering people more ammo to hate our dogs with when we post negative articles like this one.

It broke my heart, too. :( Although that's not why I suggest this

Like I said, just a thought.
 
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Good lord, today the pack of Pit Bulls killed two people. I dont know why people breed those dogs. This baby is so tragic

What -huh- excuse me?

This post makes no sense and is very ugly.

Out of several thousand members here didn't you think for a second that a few people might be a bit upset by this statement?

What do you mean "the" pack of "Pit Bulls"? What pack where and how are you so sure they were "Pit Bulls"?

There are a lot of people out there who love the APBT dearly and would not like to see the breed go extinct...and that's why some still breed them. Behind the bigoted media curtain the world of the APBT includes {gasp}: Nationally recognized conformation shows, agility events, weight pull events and fun shows. Not to mention they are beloved family pets and highly talented therapy dogs. Jeez I could go on and on but I will spare the forum of a long-winded post. Stop hating and do some research for pete's sake.
 
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THEN BLAME CNN.COM for posting it as a pack OF PIT BULLS and also the POLICE department
 
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READ THIS ARTICLE taken from a cnn.com site and linked to this site before some of you who claim this forum ot be friendly make such hateful attacks towards me.




http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14112666/detail.html




http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14112666/detail.html

2 Dead In Dog Mauling



IOSCO TOWNSHIP, Mich. -- Two people in Livingston County were killed in separate attacks by a pack of dogs Thursday.

The body of Edward Gierlach, 91, was discovered by his son in the driveway of his property in Iosco Township, about 55 miles northwest of Detroit, police said in a statement.

Gierlach lives in a nursing home in Fowlerville. Family told Local 4, he often visited the property on nice days.


The body of Sherry Harper, 56, was found alongside a road near the house, troopers said.

Police said Harper was walking or jogging when she was attacked.

"She always walked, jogged. She just walked around you know its peaceful quiet. We didn't know they had pit bulls over there," said family friend Georgeann Hammond.

Investigators located the dogs believed to have attacked the victims at an area residence, where they were seized by animal control officers, state police said.

The pit bulls, ten in all, belonged to a neighboring farm, according to police.

"Its hard to determine because once we collect them, some of them are related so they appear similar. It's hard to determine which dog did the attacks," said Det. Sean Furlong.

The dogs will be tested and animal control will decide how many of them should be euthanized.

Public concern has been growing nationally over dog-related fatalities.

The New York Times reported this summer that 33 states and the District of Columbia hold owners legally liable if their dogs maim or kill. In 2006, Ohio became the first state to enact a breed ban, though it was later overturned.


In the past two years, the Times said, nearly 100 municipalities have taken similar steps - banning pit bulls, Rottweilers, English bull terriers and American Staffordshire terriers, or passing regulations that require owners to use muzzles or short leashes in public, according to the American Kennel Club
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Copyright 2007 by ClickOnDetroit.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 

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Unfortunately, LB2007 is right, All the news reports over here said that the dog pack was composed of Pit Bulls.

I would totally believe that it was a case of Mistaken ID (as this is usually the case), but where did anybody hear they were American Bulldogs? I didn't see that anywhere. Was there a news article with more info?
 

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Nevermind. I saw the article in the forum.

They updated the article this afternoon, but from what I heard on the news, they were Pit bulls, with some American Bulldogs. Bah. What do they know :rolleyes: They were probably all Mixed.
 
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ahh, i will never have a party at my house because I freak out someone will hurt the dogs or let them out or soemthing. Like I'd bring a baby aswell.

it also said

Maybe the dog had no idea about babies? not saying lack of socialisation is an excuse. Why the hell ywould you bring your dog to a party, it would most likly be stressed out etc. They'd only had the dog three weeks


They are talking about charges for the owner of the dog aswell which is a start.
Just because a dog doesn't know about something, doesn't mean they should attack it. I don't think that makes sense. I mean the baby was in a car seat for crying out loud. Now if the baby could walk and went over to the dog, then I could see why he might snap out of fear if he wasn't socialized. But it sounds like he did more than just snap to kill a baby like that. Sounds like an all out attack to seriously harm the child. That dog obviously had problems and was a dangerous animal.

Just my opinion.
 
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Bah. What do they know :rolleyes: They were probably all Mixed.
You nailed it, that's my point. Just because the news reports said they were "Pit Bulls" doesn't make it so. Those folks couldn't recognize a true bulldog if it fell on their heads. I'm not in some sort of denial-they could be bulldog mixes, etc. but I highly doubt anyone who witnessed or reported knows squat about the APBT so they shouldn't be reporting information with such conviction IMO.

BTW LB2007- There were no hateful attacks toward you. You made statements which I found offensive and I reacted. Nothing personal. You would understand if you'd spent the last several years of your life loving and defending the most hated breed of dog in the world.

Try being an APBT in Denver, Colorado for a day. Then you'll really know what a hateful attack is all about.
 

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Just because a dog doesn't know about something, doesn't mean they should attack it. I don't think that makes sense. I mean the baby was in a car seat for crying out loud. Now if the baby could walk and went over to the dog, then I could see why he might snap out of fear if he wasn't socialized. But it sounds like he did more than just snap to kill a baby like that. Sounds like an all out attack to seriously harm the child. That dog obviously had problems and was a dangerous animal.

Just my opinion.
I didn't mean it as a justification for the attack, I know it wasn't.
A cat Buster doesn't know doesn't have to provoke him, it doesn't justify his beahviour around strange animals but it helps come to an answer.

Why the hell would you A. Take a baby to a party and B. Take a dog to a party? WTF!?
 

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To that kind of party, I have no idea. Sounds like a damper on the fun to me. Not to mention a danger and an unhappy time for dogs/babies.

I've taken Sarama to some local gatherings . . . and there were babies there to . . but they were more backyard barbeque type things and Sarama was expressly invited :D
 

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Whatever the case, it was horrible judgement on both parts...and it ended horribly for everyone involved.
 
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The text below has been altered from the text on the website.

Please click the link, where it is clearly stated:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14112666/detail.html


Investigators located the dogs, which are American bulldogs, believed to have attacked the victims at an area residence, where they were seized by animal control officers, state police said

Why would you alter the text of that article and then post this big lie?


READ THIS ARTICLE taken from a cnn.com site and linked to this site before some of you who claim this forum ot be friendly make such hateful attacks towards me.




http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14112666/detail.html




http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/14112666/detail.html

2 Dead In Dog Mauling



IOSCO TOWNSHIP, Mich. -- Two people in Livingston County were killed in separate attacks by a pack of dogs Thursday.

The body of Edward Gierlach, 91, was discovered by his son in the driveway of his property in Iosco Township, about 55 miles northwest of Detroit, police said in a statement.

Gierlach lives in a nursing home in Fowlerville. Family told Local 4, he often visited the property on nice days.


The body of Sherry Harper, 56, was found alongside a road near the house, troopers said.

Police said Harper was walking or jogging when she was attacked.

"She always walked, jogged. She just walked around you know its peaceful quiet. We didn't know they had pit bulls over there," said family friend Georgeann Hammond.

Investigators located the dogs believed to have attacked the victims at an area residence, where they were seized by animal control officers, state police said.

The pit bulls, ten in all, belonged to a neighboring farm, according to police.

Here is what it really says: Investigators located the dogs, which are American bulldogs, believed to have attacked the victims at an area residence, where they were seized by animal control officers, state police said

"Its hard to determine because once we collect them, some of them are related so they appear similar. It's hard to determine which dog did the attacks," said Det. Sean Furlong.

The dogs will be tested and animal control will decide how many of them should be euthanized.

Public concern has been growing nationally over dog-related fatalities.

The New York Times reported this summer that 33 states and the District of Columbia hold owners legally liable if their dogs maim or kill. In 2006, Ohio became the first state to enact a breed ban, though it was later overturned.


In the past two years, the Times said, nearly 100 municipalities have taken similar steps - banning pit bulls, Rottweilers, English bull terriers and American Staffordshire terriers, or passing regulations that require owners to use muzzles or short leashes in public, according to the American Kennel Club
.



Copyright 2007 by ClickOnDetroit.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 

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No, originally it really did just say Pit Bulls. It was Update since then. They said when it happened that they were all Pit Bulls, that's why I was reluctant to name the breed that was supposedly responsible when I mentioned it the first time.

Either way, the time that LB posted the quote, and the time the article was updated don't match up. But regardless, in the end, they've been identified by the Media as American Bulldogs.
 
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Look, I saw this link when the story first broke, and it never said pitbulls. Show me a screenshot.

Ridiculous.
 

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