I need HELP!

Hey guys, it's been a bad day for dogs in my part of the world today. I need some information because I'm a little afraid for the health of my rescued puppy Java.

I'm here in Cairo. Ethics is not an applied science here, I try to be ethical but others may not. This weekend I saw a dog kind of cough up some liquid, not barfing but not spitting per se either. I immediately thought "Don't let Java play with him for a while"

And then today the person in charge(this is where ethics come into it) poisoned one of the unwanted dogs on campus. I would put the time for this around 7 or 8 in the morning. Maybe sooner, I wasn't there.

At eleven I was walking Java and I noticed what looked like a dead dog in the distance. I immediately connected the dots in my head and thought to myself, "Oh yeah, there was poison out today". So I picked Java up and walked over to take a look. The dog was dead. And already stiff but not super rigid.

This is where things get complicated. The dog I found was the same one that I saw during the weekend doing the cough up type thing. But the dog that was poisoned was NOT that dog.

Then this afternoon about six I went to walk Java to the bathroom and he wasn't really responsive. I made all the way to his side without him waking up or responding really. (I immediately freaked out). But then I picked his floppy self up and held him for a minute. He seemed to wake up just fine. But when I was picking him up he kind of made a gurgly noise from inside of him and some snot(I think that must have been what it was) dripped to the floor.

So here I am freaking out because this puppy has become extremely close to my heart.

Here are the specific questions:

1. Is there some dog illness that starts with a bit of a cold type thing and a little gacking that ends in what looked like a semi-violent death(there were marks like the dog had been 'running' on its side during its last moments)

2. How long does it take a dead dog of about medium size to go stiff?

3. Is it possible that the first dog ate the stricknine(spelling?) and then barfed it and the second dog ate it? They're both dead now.


What I'm really trying to find out is this:

Did the dog die of stricknine poisoning or from that illness that it seemed to have over the weekend.

You guys are the greatest. If Java is acting funny tomorrow I'll take him to a vet pronto. But this evening he's been acting quite normal since I woke him up earlier.

Thanks.

If that dog is acting strangely in any way, go to the vet. And keep a close eye on your pu p.

Thanks, I'll keep quite the eye on him.

Another question:
How long would it take stricknine mixed into dog vomit to become less harmful if left on the ground outdoors? It rained today.

I'm just trying to figure out how long we should keep the pooper inside. And yes, if he's acting strange in the morning its straight to the vet with him. I already printed a map.

Go to the vet. Immediately.

that's what I would do. Dogs can't describe how they are feeling and can be very stoic. Time might be of the essence.

I can't go until tomorrow morning(its too late here).

Or maybe its not. I'll go find out.

This is no fun.

Please look up the signs of poisoning in dogs, on-line. It does sound like the previous dogs suffocated (fluid in the lungs) or had heart failure. Both results in certain types of poisoning. Is there no way you can go to the person baiting the area and find out exactly what kind of bait and poison he's using and where it's being placed so you can steer clear of it!

Anxious to hear up dates ! I know you've grown close to him .

This morning the little guy is acting fine. Normal energy level, normal alertness, normal breathing, no strange snotty nose(as far as I can tell). He seems fine.

But rest assured that I will keep a close eye on him and if anything not normal happens then we'll be on the way to the vet.

I was quite worried.

Rigor motis can occur (depending on the tempurature) anywhere from 10 minutes, to a couple of hours, and lasts about 72 hours.

Thanks for that info.

Okay, today Java is acting perfectly normal and rambunctious and full of poop and energy. I'm glad about that. Thanks for all the concern folks.

Great news !!

Just read all this. How scary! Hope everything will be okay... That's so sad that dogs are poisoned there.

i'd still be super super careful you don't know if the poision is all gone or if there is some left