Why buyer beware is important

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yuckaduck

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How are you being bashed? If you believe in your breeding program and offer quality puppies from registered parents that are proven in both health and working ability, then you have nothing to be worried about. On the other hand, if you were breeding shepherds and shepherd mixes of questionable lineage with no proven working ability and selling them for inflated prices, then expect people to ask questions.
(By the way, the huge chains tying up your prized dogs are particularly attractive.)
It is impressive isn't it? They are not even my dog chains...but it was quick and easy for the pictures.

I am not worried... not at all. Why should I be?

Right now I can honestly say I am being a troll....I am having way too much fun here.

Actually the one that is really really upset about this thread is my mentor. He owns a share in each of my dogs...so by calling my dogs garbage you are calling his dogs garbage. He needs to lighten up and understand where it is coming from though.

If people are not happy with what I sell...my contract has a full buy back at full price clause in it. Even states the shipping if any required would be at our expense. I feel that confident about my dogs and pups.
 

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this is crazy.
the thought of a sliver lab is awful!
why polute the blood lines? how is that diffrent from a mutt? look at the head and ears. omg, i would had swore it was a wammer.
 
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I just hope your not planning on breeding your mutt bitch that you have...

Belgians and Germans should never be mixed... You'll be ruining two great breeds if you carry that one on..
Actually the mix is a very popular police dog right now in parts of Europe.

She is not one of my puppies...we bought her for training purposes not with the intent to breed her. She is extremely shy and very unsocialized right now. Two traits I do not want in any of my pups...

Never can say what the future will bring though.
 

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All I can say is I have never meet a sociopath quite like you Yuck! Any pshyciatrist would have a hayday documenting your behavior!
 
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Well guys it really has been fun but I gotta go catch some sleep.

Glory is due in two days and just in case it is a middle of the night afair...I better just do the zzzzzzzzzzzz thing. Do not want to be to tired to help her out if she needs it.


Have a good one
 

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i couldnt get the link to your site.
so you are breeding GSD and that other dog (forgot the name, sorta like a GSD)

i am not bashing you, but to me thats no diffrent then the silver lab, or even labradoodles, etc etc etc.
 

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It is impressive isn't it? They are not even my dog chains...but it was quick and easy for the pictures.

I am not worried... not at all. Why should I be?

Right now I can honestly say I am being a troll....I am having way too much fun here.

Actually the one that is really really upset about this thread is my mentor. He owns a share in each of my dogs...so by calling my dogs garbage you are calling his dogs garbage. He needs to lighten up and understand where it is coming from though.

If people are not happy with what I sell...my contract has a full buy back at full price clause in it. Even states the shipping if any required would be at our expense. I feel that confident about my dogs and pups.
No one said you should be worried. And no one called your dogs garbage, but some were referred to as mixes. It's great that your puppy buyers can get their full money back if the puppies don't work out. That's a perfect safety net considering that the parents are not titled and the pups may not turn out to be suitable working dogs.
Have you considered working and titling your dogs? It would certainly help to lend credence to your breeding program. How about breeding to the standard? These are the things that reputable breeders do.
 

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Ohh well its a good thing you did research on the Belgian breed before you purchased her then.

Belgians handle VERY differently then the GSD.. lets hope for your sake she handles like a GSD.. we have all seen how how you do with them :)
 

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Well guys it really has been fun but I gotta go catch some sleep.

Glory is due in two days and just in case it is a middle of the night afair...I better just do the zzzzzzzzzzzz thing. Do not want to be to tired to help her out if she needs it.


Have a good one
*KISS - KISS* :rolleyes:
 

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Ohh well its a good thing you did research on the Belgian breed before you purchased her then.

Belgians handle VERY differently then the GSD.. lets hope for your sake she handles like a GSD.. we have all seen how how you do with them :)
I doubt there will be much handling done at all. Tying a dog out on a chain and then breeding it doesn't take alot of skill. Sad, isn't it?
 

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Actually the mix is a very popular police dog right now in parts of Europe.

She is not one of my puppies...we bought her for training purposes not with the intent to breed her. She is extremely shy and very unsocialized right now. Two traits I do not want in any of my pups...

Never can say what the future will bring though.
Why did you buy a shy dog that is unsocialized for training purposes???

That's Your Sign..........

Well you ain't bashing me at least...I don't have any labs.:D
What happened to all the labs you posted pictures of? :(

I doubt there will be much handling done at all. Tying a dog out on a chain and then breeding it doesn't take alot of skill. Sad, isn't it?
Yes, it is sad. You all know these dogs live on the chains. Hey Yuck, what happened to your kennels? I can post the pics of them if you wish. :rolleyes:
Why aren't they living there? I know you don't have all those dogs living in your home............ as you couldn't control Yukon. Much less all the others...
 

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There is nothing sadder than seeing those dogs on chains, except for the poor submissive-looking mix that will be turned into a working dog somehow.

I hope future puppy buyers get something out of this thread, even if it means thinking twice about breeders that don't do all of the crucial health testing and titling before breeding. There are so many BYBs with slick web sites out there and it takes a great deal of research to sift through the propaganda.

I doubt that people looking for working line shepherds would give these dogs a second look. I hope the pet people who buy these puppies can handle the challenges they'll face.
 
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You guys are just to entertaining...I can't get away.

Who said they were all living in the house?
Who says I cannot control Yukon?
Who says we do not still have our kennels?

Wow you make alot of assumtions.


By the way we are working very closely with a trainer...all of Yukon's issues were cleared up by getting the right trainer and putting him to work. He needed to do something...anything...he loves his personal protection work. He loves his tracking....

He was not getting that mind of his stimulated...that is why he was such a bozo....he certainly has no issues at all now.



Sold the labs...long ago. Too much trying to keep up with the health tests and vet bills of two breeds at once. Stuck with the GSD's! Lots of other lab breeders out there.
Go to the link on my website for Shouland labs...Nikki { Stevie Nicks Landslide} is there...that is who bought her.

What is wrong with you? Why not buy a shy, unsocialized dog...and work with it. Actually I am not the one working with her...got my own things to do. That is what our trainer is for.....
He thinks she will be a really nice dog once she gets some work put in on her.

Why do you have to start out with the perfect dog everytime you want to do something? Why not take something and work with it and see it blossum?
 
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There is nothing sadder than seeing those dogs on chains, except for the poor submissive-looking mix that will be turned into a working dog somehow.

I hope future puppy buyers get something out of this thread, even if it means thinking twice about breeders that don't do all of the crucial health testing and titling before breeding. There are so many BYBs with slick web sites out there and it takes a great deal of research to sift through the propaganda.

I doubt that people looking for working line shepherds would give these dogs a second look. I hope the pet people who buy these puppies can handle the challenges they'll face.
I highly doubt I will have any pet quality available...

Already got many many deposits from true working people so guess they forgot to look the other way.
 
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