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Because people want a household pet where the genetic health of the parents/line is known, want to raise a puppy, and want to have an idea of how that pup will turn out? Because they're not equipped for potential baggage of an adult, or because their needs in a pet are met by a breed that's very uncommon in rescue? Or because they want to have say/control of if and when the animal is sexually altered?

My mom got Ollie as household pet and nothing more. I mean, they jog with him but almost any dog can do that. She still sought him out from a breeder for all of the reasons listed above and more. He has been absolutely perfect for my parents and their household.

I'm very uncomfortable with the attitude that one should "need" the dog for "something" in order to buy from a breeder. I think that's unfair to pet owners.
I did not mean that "pet" owners should never go the breeder route at all. I just feel like a lot of homes automatically rule out rescue without even thinking about it at all.. obviously if it is an educated and thought out decision then whatever is best for your family.
 

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I did not mean that "pet" owners should never go the breeder route at all. I just feel like a lot of homes automatically rule out rescue without even thinking about it at all.. obviously if it is an educated and thought out decision then whatever is best for your family.
I can definitely agree to all that (although rescue is a very popular option in my area so I don't think we have an issue with most people ruling it out). But you did ask "Why not rescue?" if you just want a pet, so I answered with the reasons my family had. :p
 

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I can definitely agree to all that (although rescue is a very popular option in my area so I don't think we have an issue with most people ruling it out). But you did ask "Why not rescue?" if you just want a pet, so I answered with the reasons my family had. :p
Around here, a lot of people see rescued dogs as like, a problem child. Lol. Most people don't even know what health testing is and get their dogs through the newspaper. I realize now that I set myself up for that response, but that was really not what I meant. I think it should at least be a thought, ya know? That's kind of what I meant by "why not rescue?" Not ALL THE PET OWNERS SHALL RESCUE OR GO TO THE BLAZING FIRES. Lol.
 

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Around here, a lot of people see rescued dogs as like, a problem child. Lol. Most people don't even know what health testing is and get their dogs through the newspaper. I realize now that I set myself up for that response, but that was really not what I meant. I think it should at least be a thought, ya know? That's kind of what I meant by "why not rescue?" Not ALL THE PET OWNERS SHALL RESCUE OR GO TO THE BLAZING FIRES. Lol.
Yeah I totally get what you meant now. Luckily, in my area, rescue is popular. We hold adoption fairs at my work and they're like big parties when people come to look for a new dog. Which is awesome. :)
 

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Yeah I totally get what you meant now. Luckily, in my area, rescue is popular. We hold adoption fairs at my work and they're like big parties when people come to look for a new dog. Which is awesome. :)
That is awesome! I've been trying to team up with the handful of rescues we have locally to get Lucy some more time out with potential adopters, and it's been like pulling teeth. So frustrating.

I think the dynamics change a lot when you get into the bigger cities where rescue is pushed a little more (obviously generalizations!). For example, a town just northwest of me is pretty good sized, and that is where most of the rescues I know of are located. So there are people who do it. I just can't find them where I live. :(
 

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My boyfriend and I are talking about getting a dog in the future. I would prefer to a breeder who health tests. Several of the breeds we are looking at have major health issues and I think I would feel better knowing my dogs parents and lineage.

However, 4 of the breeds on our list are currently shown docked. I am concerned that we won't be able to find a breeder willing to let us select a puppy at such a young age and keep it from being docked. That's usually done at less than a week old. That's a risk for both the breeder and us.

Most of the rescues and shelters here have a high percentage of Pit Bulls or Pit mixes. Not that I don't like the breed, its just that of all breeds, that is one I would definitely want to get from a breeder.
 

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I plan to buy my next dog with companionship as a very real part of it. Sure, sporting is extremely important but the ability to go on and keep up on a week as such, where we are now, is essential.

This week Sloan flew in a plane, met new family, stayed in a new home, swam, hiked, picnicked, boated, played fetch with strangers, called off wildlife, was left in a new house alone, was left in a new truck alone, was taken around a bonfire with strangers and strange dogs, and so on and so forth going non-stop until we crash. While sporting is a top priority in our life the ability to be a well rounded and stable pet with stamina to go all day is essential.

The ability to do these things, which ime not all dogs can because I have tried, is something to be bred for and sought after. A socially appropriate, confident, jack of all trades dog who can kick ass on any field and both physically and mentally go until asked elsewise is very important. Being part of a breeding program, in any form, that is perpetuating this type of dog is IMO just as important as rescue.
 

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I'll always have a rescue with me, but I won't go through a shelter or a rescue. They won't adopt out to me anyways due to me having intact animals.

My next dog in the future will most likely come from a breeder or a private rehome or do as Takoda did just right chance and right dog. Most likely the next dog I'm getting (Another Beagle or Cur) will come from hunting breeders that are local.
 

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This week Sloan flew in a plane, met new family, stayed in a new home, swam, hiked, picnicked, boated, played fetch with strangers, called off wildlife, was left in a new house alone, was left in a new truck alone, was taken around a bonfire with strangers and strange dogs, and so on and so forth going non-stop until we crash. While sporting is a top priority in our life the ability to be a well rounded and stable pet with stamina to go all day is essential.

The ability to do these things, which ime not all dogs can because I have tried, is something to be bred for and sought after. A socially appropriate, confident, jack of all trades dog who can kick ass on any field and both physically and mentally go until asked elsewise is very important. Being part of a breeding program, in any form, that is perpetuating this type of dog is IMO just as important as rescue.

Hell yeah! :hail: Exactly what I want/look for/need in my dogs!
 
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I'll always have a rescue with me, but I won't go through a shelter or a rescue. They won't adopt out to me anyways due to me having intact animals.

My next dog in the future will most likely come from a breeder or a private rehome or do as Takoda did just right chance and right dog. Most likely the next dog I'm getting (Another Beagle or Cur) will come from hunting breeders that are local.
I can see this with most established rescues but in my experience, at least the shelters around here, they don't really care if you have intact animals in your home (even if you're breeding them). Yeah, the applications ask about it but that doesn't stop them from giving you a dog. Maybe it's just my rural shelters who don't care all that much but I think (not necessarily point this at you) people who want a "rescue" animal should most definitely try. I know one shelter/animal control adopts out their animals intact but you have to pay a deposit. Once you provide proof that your adopted animal was altered, you get your money back.
 
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The SPCA here put out a call for lactating dogs to nurse some momless pups, I told them I had one (Ruffian bagged up with every.single.heat) and they refused me because Gage wasnt neutered yet.

They also refused to let me foster because ruffian wasnt spayed, it didnt matter that at 13 she hadnt had puppies in 10 years so I obviously knew how to prevent it, and that I was looking to foster an altered male dog.

No way no how would they have ever adopted a dog to me.
 

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The SPCA here put out a call for lactating dogs to nurse some momless pups, I told them I had one (Ruffian bagged up with every.single.heat) and they refused me because Gage wasnt neutered yet.

They also refused to let me foster because ruffian wasnt spayed, it didnt matter that at 13 she hadnt had puppies in 10 years so I obviously knew how to prevent it, and that I was looking to foster an altered male dog.

No way no how would they have ever adopted a dog to me.
Yeah I was denied by a rescue because I "didn't have enough" vet records ... I asked them what this meant & they said that my vet hasn't seen my dogs enough ... Huh? I mean my vet saw my dogs for routine Checkups, I buy my dogs HW meds online so I don't need to go to the vet for that. So I'm a bad person because my dogs are healthy & never have to go to the vet for anything other then routine Checkups? :confused:

I had a friend who was turned down because she didn't use monthly flea preventive :/

I think some rescues get a little hoddy toddy when it comes to screening perspective homes & a lot of good people get turned away & that's sometimes what makes people turn to let stores or BYB's.
 
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I have a problem with rescue requirements too. My dogs have all been from the humane society but only because I worked there. Had I not, they wouldn't have adopted to me.

My biggest peeve is denying people because their yard isn't fenced. What a trivial and asinine thing to deny someone a dog over.

I've had to stop fostering because I'm so annoyed.
 
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I think it's a HUGE reason that most people are turned away from rescues. It has become so hard to get an animal from some if these rescues, some going so far as to ask for financial statements I mean really!?! And add to that the adoption fees are often as high or higher as buying a pup from kijiji why do it? You have the same odds of hereditary problems, and you have to answer 1000 questions, I can totally see why people go to kijiji. It's almost a status symbol to say one was able to adopt from xyz rescue and pass their bs.
 

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Lol I'm always curious.

Is it x titles? X level? x many dogs? Xyz breeds? Not being willing to keep dogs that don't pan out?
I don't think it's how many titles, levels, or not keeping dogs that don't pan out.

I think it has more to do with your mind set, sometimes. In my experience, when I go to a competition (which has sadly been sparse this summer! but he's slowly but surely coming back) my mindset is to do MY best so I can get the best, and furthest out of my dog. Yes, we have a fun time, but I also desire for my dog to do well.

We've all been to competitions before and seen those that are 'just there to have fun' and I was one of those when I started, but I now have goals I'd like to accomplish.

I condition my dog with supplements, I train dry land regularly, I do weekly dock practice (now that one is close by!), etc.

I also don't just want to train. Or take this class and that class. I want to compete. And again, I see this as more of a mindset, then having this title and that.

In my mind, I don't consider myself simply a 'dabbler' in dock diving. This is our sport.
 
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ruffiangirl;2291671 And add to that the adoption fees are often as high or higher as buying a pup from kijiji why do it? You have the same odds of hereditary problems said:
I still cant.....giving money to a rescue who helps dogs versus a crappy breeder who is adding to the problem...apples and oranges.
 

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