Trick of the week: Rebounds, overs and stalls
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Kootany, you are one brave lady. You also have the single most adorable dog ever.
Okay, so here's where we are right now in the Foot Stall for both Traveler and Didgie. It's a progression video and kinda shows how I did it though I tried other methods and scrapped them.
I'm using a bathmat because it protected my legs, gave a little bit of grip and was a target. It's a pretty thin one though so it doesn't give much support to them. I started with it on my legs like Sekah did. Once they were doing that nice I moved to my knees because it's a smaller space but lower and then I moved to my feet.
We've still got a lot of work to do but they're getting it! Now if only I can survive that long.
Also, bloopers at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zNBqldYPKc
[YOUTUBE]2zNBqldYPKc[/YOUTUBE]
Okay, so here's where we are right now in the Foot Stall for both Traveler and Didgie. It's a progression video and kinda shows how I did it though I tried other methods and scrapped them.
I'm using a bathmat because it protected my legs, gave a little bit of grip and was a target. It's a pretty thin one though so it doesn't give much support to them. I started with it on my legs like Sekah did. Once they were doing that nice I moved to my knees because it's a smaller space but lower and then I moved to my feet.
We've still got a lot of work to do but they're getting it! Now if only I can survive that long.
Also, bloopers at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zNBqldYPKc
[YOUTUBE]2zNBqldYPKc[/YOUTUBE]
After strangling Youtube I re-uploaded it. Then Youtube deleted it because it was a duplicate. So after throwing my computer out a window I deleted the old one only half of you could see and re-uploaded it. If it doesn't work I'm going to cry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKbgpTX9D0
[YOUTUBE]0UKbgpTX9D0[/YOUTUBE]
Quoting myself from before
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UKbgpTX9D0
[YOUTUBE]0UKbgpTX9D0[/YOUTUBE]
Quoting myself from before
Yay, I can see that one!
That's a fair amount of gut punches. Way to to take some for the team.
So it's rainy outside today, which forced us inside, which led to an epiphany about using the futon to help me lure Maisy by myself. She learned getting her front feet up almost instantly, but isn't quite grokking getting her rear feet on me, too. She mostly just.... stretches out. So I suppose if nothing else I've invented a new way to stretch her before a run.
[YOUTUBE]dZFR9HI-nEA[/YOUTUBE]
That's a fair amount of gut punches. Way to to take some for the team.
So it's rainy outside today, which forced us inside, which led to an epiphany about using the futon to help me lure Maisy by myself. She learned getting her front feet up almost instantly, but isn't quite grokking getting her rear feet on me, too. She mostly just.... stretches out. So I suppose if nothing else I've invented a new way to stretch her before a run.
[YOUTUBE]dZFR9HI-nEA[/YOUTUBE]
She is about 35lbs right now I think, maybe 33lbs now that she's lost her winter flab. I found the foot stall was a lot easier in short bursts (like SaraB said, short short short sessions) and that helped me build up my endurance as well as Dex's. Plus, once it's complete and you can straighten and lock your knees, it's easy as can be
Love it! I think I'm going to re-try the bath mat tactic when I switch to my feet (and maybe knees). It looks so sleek and effortless (lawl) when you finally get that finished product.
Great work, Sass. It's a tough thing to teach solo, and you've done marvelously.
I love how active these trick training thingers have been. We all clearly love showing off with our dogs a bit, and have a penchant for the dramatic (and painful).
Great work, Sass. It's a tough thing to teach solo, and you've done marvelously.
I love how active these trick training thingers have been. We all clearly love showing off with our dogs a bit, and have a penchant for the dramatic (and painful).
She is about 35lbs right now I think, maybe 33lbs now that she's lost her winter flab. I found the foot stall was a lot easier in short bursts (like SaraB said, short short short sessions) and that helped me build up my endurance as well as Dex's. Plus, once it's complete and you can straighten and lock your knees, it's easy as can be
So reminder for those of you working footstalls, keep them short!!!
Yeah, this stupid stall has been months in the making. I tried awhile back with Traveler and it just epically failed. Since then I've been working on it on and off for awhile and in all those failed attempts building up their core strength.
So mine was all filmed today in many short sessions (Yay for two dogs to trade back and forth!) but that's because it had been being worked on in small pieces for awhile.
Sass, Maisy's enthusiasm is contagious. I love how when in doubt she gives you kisses!
So mine was all filmed today in many short sessions (Yay for two dogs to trade back and forth!) but that's because it had been being worked on in small pieces for awhile.
Sass, Maisy's enthusiasm is contagious. I love how when in doubt she gives you kisses!
I'd offer that even for the back stall. Maybe it's my dogs being bigger but it's still a hard balance for them and we definitely saw a dramatic crash in balance and confidence after wobbling when we pushed a bit too long.
The one and only shin stall I started I did it for maybe 2 minutes and moved on to something else, it's a lot for them I think.
The one and only shin stall I started I did it for maybe 2 minutes and moved on to something else, it's a lot for them I think.
And even with the back stall, which is a bigger surface and seems like it should be "easier," I feel like there's enough instability that the balance is tricky for her and not something to try to learn all at once.
It reminds me of having a bad balance day in yoga or learning a new balancing yoga pose... you can't just keep at it forever, let yourself wobble and fall a few times then leave it and let your body stew on it for awhile before coming back to it and the muscle memory will develop over time and trial and error.
It reminds me of having a bad balance day in yoga or learning a new balancing yoga pose... you can't just keep at it forever, let yourself wobble and fall a few times then leave it and let your body stew on it for awhile before coming back to it and the muscle memory will develop over time and trial and error.
Very nice!!! I should totally add that as a reason to teach a backstall. A workout for you and your dog!! I also love how Payton and georgie were like, hey this is cool, I get treats.
Go Squash!!! He's so stinking adorable it hurts. Maisy is so excited, I love her enthusiasm! Yes, helpers are great in the first stages, but fade them quickly otherwise you'll have a heck of a time fading them later. Two or three reps from the helper generally gets the idea in the dog's head.
Very nice!! I do a scoot to a backstall in Zuma's routine. Such an easy set up for it.
First off, tell Denis to spread his legs, one in the front the other in the back. That should help him from shifting his weight forward when Sloan jumps up.
The video of Backup seriously made me laugh! He reminds me of Zip Tie, all fumble but trying so dang hard.
With the rebound, which is what I'm assuming you are talking about in regards to the treat placement, unless you are planning on teaching him to catch a disc with it? A vault is where they use your body to jump up to catch something, a rebound/fakey is where they just jump off your body. You want it fluid before you move to the wall that's for sure. Clean? I would have to see it. Reward in your lap and then toss the treat to the ground for a few reps, then fade out the reward in your lap and only reward on the ground. He should start to jump up with the intentions of jumping off right away pretty soon and then it will become more fluid.
You guys and your shin training. Much braver than I, that's for sure!
It looks great!
Toss that treat to the ground so she lands facing away from you, both dogs! It should be a complete circle.
This!
It is really high. You can lower your legs when you ask for the off and make it less difficult for him.
I can't wait to see the one-footed footstall! That's on my to-do list eventually.
LOVED this!! Way to get creative!
This is what I normally recommend when people are struggling with any kind of stall, start on a couch and lure them that way. It's looking good!!
Go Squash!!! He's so stinking adorable it hurts. Maisy is so excited, I love her enthusiasm! Yes, helpers are great in the first stages, but fade them quickly otherwise you'll have a heck of a time fading them later. Two or three reps from the helper generally gets the idea in the dog's head.
Very nice!! I do a scoot to a backstall in Zuma's routine. Such an easy set up for it.
First off, tell Denis to spread his legs, one in the front the other in the back. That should help him from shifting his weight forward when Sloan jumps up.
The video of Backup seriously made me laugh! He reminds me of Zip Tie, all fumble but trying so dang hard.
With the rebound, which is what I'm assuming you are talking about in regards to the treat placement, unless you are planning on teaching him to catch a disc with it? A vault is where they use your body to jump up to catch something, a rebound/fakey is where they just jump off your body. You want it fluid before you move to the wall that's for sure. Clean? I would have to see it. Reward in your lap and then toss the treat to the ground for a few reps, then fade out the reward in your lap and only reward on the ground. He should start to jump up with the intentions of jumping off right away pretty soon and then it will become more fluid.
You guys and your shin training. Much braver than I, that's for sure!
It looks great!
Toss that treat to the ground so she lands facing away from you, both dogs! It should be a complete circle.
This!
I finally got to a computer & could watch Art's videos! What a superstar!!!
I love how excited everyone is about this! These last weeks have def. been the most popular ToftheW's! It's AWESOME!!!
Cross & I have been working on foot stalls. Very slowly. I'm not sure if it's my inability to put my legs right but it just seems like he has to jump quite a distance to get up there! Or it's just my perspective, but it seems really high!! And when he dismounts he likes to come forward and use my body as a stepping block, and that's not cool.
We have been doing lots of practicing jumping onto a narrow stool thing, which has helped his balance considerably. (need to get an exercise ball!). He absolutely wouldn't get all four feet on it at first (I do have a boring video of that!) but what helped was putting the stool in between two "end tables" and just having him walk across, eventually asking him to wait on the stool and making the distance from the table-stool-table wider and wider. Then asking him to jump from the floor.
We're actively working on a one footed foot stall where I'm on my side. Hopefully a video to come as soon as we start to make some progress
I love how excited everyone is about this! These last weeks have def. been the most popular ToftheW's! It's AWESOME!!!
Cross & I have been working on foot stalls. Very slowly. I'm not sure if it's my inability to put my legs right but it just seems like he has to jump quite a distance to get up there! Or it's just my perspective, but it seems really high!! And when he dismounts he likes to come forward and use my body as a stepping block, and that's not cool.
We have been doing lots of practicing jumping onto a narrow stool thing, which has helped his balance considerably. (need to get an exercise ball!). He absolutely wouldn't get all four feet on it at first (I do have a boring video of that!) but what helped was putting the stool in between two "end tables" and just having him walk across, eventually asking him to wait on the stool and making the distance from the table-stool-table wider and wider. Then asking him to jump from the floor.
We're actively working on a one footed foot stall where I'm on my side. Hopefully a video to come as soon as we start to make some progress
I can't wait to see the one-footed footstall! That's on my to-do list eventually.
LOVED this!! Way to get creative!
So it's rainy outside today, which forced us inside, which led to an epiphany about using the futon to help me lure Maisy by myself. She learned getting her front feet up almost instantly, but isn't quite grokking getting her rear feet on me, too. She mostly just.... stretches out. So I suppose if nothing else I've invented a new way to stretch her before a run.