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In the two weeks since his last assessment he has been able to say 15 more words. He couldn't say one 3 months ago and we are now at 30 so I am very hopeful he will making huge progress. My son didn't make eye contact before either or want to include people on his interests. Now he tries to get my attention to count with him and gets excited when I do. He will make eye contact, though it us fleeting.... so its all forwards moving. Its good/
 

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In the two weeks since his last assessment he has been able to say 15 more words. He couldn't say one 3 months ago and we are now at 30 so I am very hopeful he will making huge progress. My son didn't make eye contact before either or want to include people on his interests. Now he tries to get my attention to count with him and gets excited when I do. He will make eye contact, though it us fleeting.... so its all forwards moving. Its good/
This is a lot like what my SIL's son dealt with. Couldn't say many words, he was cuddly but didn't really make eye contact or want to engage anyone. Now he can speak quite well and is more social. :)

With early intervention it's going to continue moving forward :D
 

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Paige, that sounds really promising! I'm so glad you're finally getting help.

I've got two things on my mind today:
1. I'm having a ton of pelvic pressure. I'm not sure if it's my ligaments loosening up...I'm having some trouble walking, but I don't think it was that bad (I wasn't so waddle-y) this morning. I walked a big-ish rescue dog today with less than stellar leash manners, and had no trouble doing that, but since I've gotten home my hips/pelvis feel weeeeird.

2. I'm going to be really sad to not be pregnant anymore. I don't like it all that much, honestly...and even when the baby moves, although I think it's cool, it seems more weird than "magical" or whatever people say about it. As much as I don't think there's anything weird about other people being pregnant or giving birth, it seems really, really strange to me.

But it hit me last night that pretty soon, the baby isn't going to be RIGHT THERE, ALL THE TIME. Like, right now, if something was wrong, I'd know right away. And nobody else can take my baby and try to hold it or do stuff with it. And I know he or she isn't too hot or too cold or too hungry or whatever. I don't want all that to go away :(
 

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I felt the same way with both pregnancies. I didn't really like being [regnant (didnt hate it either) and it certainly wasnt magical but being a parent, and then a parent of 2 was a bit of a mind trip
 
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I'm going to miss her movements, being able to eat whatever/whenever and let my belly hang all out and will miss people treating me like I'm a superhero and instead judging my every move. I'm worried about being successful at breast feeding and about raising her right and about standing up to people trying to interfere.

BUT.

I will be able to have a beer or a glass of wine. I will know what my ankle bones look like again. I will be able to get into a car, roll over in bed or get up off the couch without feeling like a ninety year old arthritis patient. I'll be able to breathe and eat at the same time and still be comfortable. I'll be able to have sex (real sex!) again. I wont have the pain of someone kicking me in the spleen from the inside. And on top of all that, I'll have the reason I put up with all this here with me.

I'm so ready.
 

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In the two weeks since his last assessment he has been able to say 15 more words. He couldn't say one 3 months ago and we are now at 30 so I am very hopeful he will making huge progress. My son didn't make eye contact before either or want to include people on his interests. Now he tries to get my attention to count with him and gets excited when I do. He will make eye contact, though it us fleeting.... so its all forwards moving. Its good/
My cousin's son didn't start talking at all until he was 2 to 2 1/2. It had us all a little worried because her other boys have all been early talkers and walkers and brilliant little child prodigies and then her youngest just didn't talk at all. Anyways, long story short, he's older now and talks quite a bit!
 

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My cousin's son didn't start talking at all until he was 2 to 2 1/2. It had us all a little worried because her other boys have all been early talkers and walkers and brilliant little child prodigies and then her youngest just didn't talk at all. Anyways, long story short, he's older now and talks quite a bit!
I don't think that's abnormal of little boys at all, though. Combined with other things it might be concerning, but I think the average 2.5 year old boy isn't very verbal. I wouldn't worry if my 2+ year old boy wasn't talking, provided he was reaching other milestones on time.
 

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As for public school labels, I don't believe schools should be the ones labeling children. Give input and feedback about areas they struggle with... Yes but labels? NO. Public school officials aren't trained to diagnose and should not be labelling children on their own.
That's exactly how it works. The school has trained staff (psychologists, audiologists, social workers, counselors, special education experts, physical therapists, speech pathologists, etc to run evaluations and tests. They request input from any medical doctors or specialists the child sees. Parental input and teacher narratives are considered. Ultimately it is the parents choice what goes into an iep document, but it is absolutely a team effort with all appropriate professionals involved.

The "label" just goes on the special education paperwork so the child can qualify for the extra services they need. In most cases, nothing is considered until second grade because there is such a huge range of normal in young children.
 

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That's exactly how it works. The school has trained staff (psychologists, audiologists, social workers, counselors, special education experts, physical therapists, speech pathologists, etc to run evaluations and tests. They request input from any medical doctors or specialists the child sees. Parental input and teacher narratives are considered. Ultimately it is the parents choice what goes into an iep document, but it is absolutely a team effort with all appropriate professionals involved.

The "label" just goes on the special education paperwork so the child can qualify for the extra services they need. In most cases, nothing is considered until second grade because there is such a huge range of normal in young children.
Hmmmm... That must be fairly new or differs by region because I know of lots of kids who were deemed "add" or "learning disabled" in school where the parents were just told by the teacher "hey your kid can't focus and needs meds" (paraphrasing). Brians cousins son has to see a speech therapist but it's not through his school and it wasn't brought up through school speech pathologists. His mom is also a teacher and doesn't deal with all of these medical professionals. She gets kids who have disabilities and gets little support for them other than their aides (not aides put there by the school but by the parents)

Many of those kids are now in our homeschool co op and thriving without meds.

When Hannah was in preschool one day a week (not public but still soured me) they said one week "you know Hannah was staring off into space a lot today" and I said "yeah, she was sick and then we had family in town and she is tired" and they said "well, it could be add you know" and I said "yeah... Or maybe she's bored because she already knows what you are teaching"

But at the end of the day... If there is a REAL issue, 2nd grade is probably not an ideal age to just start dealkng with autism. Early intervention is important and very effective.
 

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I don't think it's even by region but by school. The first (public) school I went to had qualified individuals to work with the kids needing it, who worked with medical professionals and the local children's hospital. For example, I had severe phonology problems, and I was doing 3 days/week at CHEO and the other 2 days a week at school with their professionals, and it was continual, working together.

The second (public) school had nothing like that at all.

Then I went to alternative schools, and they had limited help. By far, the first school was the best for the help.


All the schools were in the same area, within 5kms of each other.
 

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No insurance coverage because I am in limbo between two states and no doctor will schedule me without proof of insurance. It's really frustrating and it's mostly due to the fact that Louisiana is a crappy state that took forever to cancel my Medicaid with them.
 

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Barbara, how long has it been since your last appointment? June 1st isn't that far away, and although a lot of OBs want to see patients every 2 or 3 weeks towards the end, it's not really necessary unless there's a problem. Is there a planned parenthood or other clinic you can go to for anything urgent but non-emergency?

I've never heard of unqualified school officials diagnosing or treating kids? Even if the teacher suggests a child has an issue, they'd still need to see a doctor for a diagnosis or medication anyway. And I'm pretty sure it's illegal for teachers to suggest a child has a specific disorder, too, all they can say is the child is having issues with XYZ and they recommend seeking help.
 
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So there's officially a whiteish liquid coming out of my right breast and I'm really freaked out.
It's probably just colostrum. No need to worry :)

There have been two incidents where the heat and pressure of having my boobs squeeze up against my husbands back while sleeping have caused my boob to leak. Nothing says "I love you" like leaving a wet spot on your husband's back. ;)
 

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While caleb is not Autistic , he has a huge learning disability due to his seizure activity.

The school district here has an early intervention aimed at 3yr olds. They work with the parents to get teh kids placed in the proper class setting. even if the class is out of there district , the kid is bused to the school with the proper class so that the school system can consolidate the kids that need alike services in order to actually provide services instead of half assing them.





Paige ~ if you need to vent of talk or anything you got me on Facebook and here,
the heart break and shock and why's are normal and part of the grieving process.
And even though you knew in your heart the diagnosis , it still is horrid to have it confirmed. hugs hugs hugs .
 

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Barbara, how long has it been since your last appointment? June 1st isn't that far away, and although a lot of OBs want to see patients every 2 or 3 weeks towards the end, it's not really necessary unless there's a problem. Is there a planned parenthood or other clinic you can go to for anything urgent but non-emergency?

I've never heard of unqualified school officials diagnosing or treating kids? Even if the teacher suggests a child has an issue, they'd still need to see a doctor for a diagnosis or medication anyway. And I'm pretty sure it's illegal for teachers to suggest a child has a specific disorder, too, all they can say is the child is having issues with XYZ and they recommend seeking help.
The cases that were mentioned, all specified the school/people were qualified...
 

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I've never heard of unqualified school officials diagnosing or treating kids? Even if the teacher suggests a child has an issue, they'd still need to see a doctor for a diagnosis or medication anyway. .
This. A doctor is not just going to hand over medications to a child simply because a layperson suggested it. By the same token, I can say that I think my boss is bipolar all I want, but a doctor isn't going to prescribe meds due to that;)
 

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The cases that were mentioned, all specified the school/people were qualified...
oh, that wasn't a response to your comment, I was just mentioning because Tanya's post seemed to imply that teachers or other non-trained school employees were labeling kids ADD or learning disability based on their behavior in the classroom. I've never seen or heard of that happening, and I'm fairly certain it would be illegal for a school to do so.

I can absolutely believe a doctor can over-diagnose learning disabilities in children based on what a teacher or other non-qualified school official might say without performing a proper assessment. But I've never seen or heard of a teacher saying "your child has ADD" to a parent. The only time anyone from a school would say that is if they were a doctor hired by the school to diagnose kids with issues.
 

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