Landlord's annoying dog

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I'll respond more in detail when I get home since I'm at work right now, but I like the idea of offering to tie him up just while I'm walking my dogs. He is definitely a friendly dog.... A VERY friendly dog. He does it because he is overly excited and wants to play, but it is just super annoying.

This morning Cricket was pooping. I heard the front door open and before I could react he barreled into her and knocked her over while she was in the middle of pooping. It hurt her too because she was limping a little after (though seems fine now). I tried to get between them and held him by his collar so she could try to finish going to the bathroom. I then waited until he went back inside to walk Bamm and Joey. He was out there for about a half hour and Joey whined the whole time because he hadn't done his morning pee/poop yet.

Also I won't pepper spray him. I'm willing to do the "throw treats for him" but only if his owners are ok with it since I wouldn't want someone else to treat my dog without permission.
 

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Yeah but our dogs arent being obnoxious & doing dangerous behavior, the OP has gone to them & given them the heads up (to my knowledge more then once, & as I read it, the neighbors have too) so its not like she just upped & decided to spray the dog in the face (the very obnoxious dog mind you). Still how is it any different then lets say if the neighbors did it.

I would toss someone out if they did anything like that to my dog... BUT my dogs are well behaved also, so they would be "punishing" them for doing normal, polite doggy things.
...but you don't get to choose what you think is appropriate for any dog but your own. Your dogs are behaved to YOU, to somebody else, I'm sure they're not.
 

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...but you don't get to choose what you think is appropriate for any dog but your own. Your dogs are behaved to YOU, to somebody else, I'm sure they're not.
This. I let Chester get away with a lot of crap other people wouldn't let their dogs get away with (like mouthing), but I don't mind and I know my dog so I don't change it.
 

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What if you approach them with a request that they keep him in at certain times, say 7-8 am and 7-8 pm (or whatever) so that you can walk your dogs as a group safely? Just put it out there that it's hard for you to manage your dogs with him being loose, so if they could please just do that, he can run loose the rest of the time and you'll work around it. You are paying rent right? So even though it's a favor....

Barring that, can you get him and sneak him into a crate in your place for an hour, walk your dogs and then slip him outside again? LOL

We used to have the neighbor's dog come to our acreage all the time, quite annoying, if I was feeding the goats he'd get put in a dog run while I did that since he'd chase the animals. Finally he was over and I had to go somewhere, the rule was the gate got shut and locked, so locked him in the yard for the day. They must have climbed the fence to lift the big moose out, but we never saw him after that. LOL
 

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...but you don't get to choose what you think is appropriate for any dog but your own. Your dogs are behaved to YOU, to somebody else, I'm sure they're not.
Well not saying they are perfect but they don't go barreling into someone else's dog hurting them & it is my job to protect my dogs, if I do not I feel like a failed them.

The only ppl who don't like or don't know dogs or don't have dogs would think mine are rude or bad I put that much work into them & if they are being a pest I would make them stop & I expect other folks to do the same.

I ask, how is this any different then let's say, if this dog were to do this in a park or dog park while you & your dogs were minding your own business? Just saying.
 

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What about teaching the dog to stay away yourself? Before he gets to you, chuck a biscuit his way, keep moving and only throw a biscuit to him when he's __ feet away?
This is a good idea, but as a lab owner I must warn you--have a LOT of biscits handy and be prepared to be the "ZOMGBISCUITLADY!!!!!" for the rest of your life-lol.
 
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I ask, how is this any different then let's say, if this dog were to do this in a park or dog park while you & your dogs were minding your own business? Just saying.
Because one is a public place. THIS situation is a PRIVATE residence that belongs to the dogs owners...they get to let their dog act pretty much however they want. Regardless of that, its just rude to spray a dog when its NOT a danger and threatening situation and can be manages by many many other ways
 

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Well not saying they are perfect but they don't go barreling into someone else's dog hurting them & it is my job to protect my dogs, if I do not I feel like a failed them.

The only ppl who don't like or don't know dogs or don't have dogs would think mine are rude or bad I put that much work into them & if they are being a pest I would make them stop & I expect other folks to do the same.

I ask, how is this any different then let's say, if this dog were to do this in a park or dog park while you & your dogs were minding your own business? Just saying.
I would not more or less pepper spray a dog in a park or dog park either. :rolleyes: Especially as this dog doesn't sound to be actually aggressive, just obnoxious.
 

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On the other hand it is easy to teach a dog that they have to stay away from you & only you (mine while they are staying at my folks know what they can get away with with them but when I am home visiting they are perfect angels) I agree, a few shots of citronella spray, though some dogs need something "tougher", I always used something called "Wrap Last" which is essentually pepper spray, its actually something you spray on stall bandages to keep the horses from messing with them.

One shot of that in the face & most dogs will not do it more then twice, its better then lets say, their dog & your dogs having a free for all when one or more of them get sick of being harassed with they are trying to use the restroom. Not to mention it can regress your training (having dogs that will start to not use the restroom for fear of being bombarded by some obnoxious dog).

That is if they say no to the tieing him up thing while you are outside but I would not lie about the reason, I would be straight foward with them, I would say in a diplomatic way that your dogs aare unable to use the restroom even because their dog is bothering them & then ask if you guys can compromise on just tying the dog up when you are outside letting your dogd do their business, then taking your dogs back inside, then letting their dog off.

you could also make a date where all the dogs can be outside playing together for further compromise or something like that (not during your dogs "bathroom time") maybe after your dogs have used the restroom or something like that.

also maybe you could offer to work with the dog to make him more neighborhood friendly to benifit everyone.
If someone who rented from me pepper sprayed my dog on my property they had better be prepared to move out by days end. Just sayin'.
 

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That's why I don't use food, you don't know how the dog will react to food & food can cause probs with all the dogs present, what if he is FA? You just don't know, even the friendliest dogs can be FA.
 

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If I saw the dog coming I would block the dog from getting to mine, even if I had to take some of the roughing up in the process, FYI wrap last isn't "pepper spray" persay as in now as intense, just mildly irritating but it isn't dangerous.

I have met lots of labs who are like this, not to insult good dog with good owners, but there are a lot of ill bred dogs & bad owners that give the breed a bad name like the OP's landlord.

I had a couple of bosses/landlords who were inconsiderate with their dogs or to dogs in general, notice I am not there anymore.

Also wrap last is NOT "pepper spray" & yes I would if I thought my dogs were getting hurt but I don't get a chance to because I have dogs who are quick to out an obnoxious dog (without harming them) in their place quick.

On the subject of Wrap Last, It isn't harmful or toxic because it is made to go on things that Re IN CONTACT with an animal (wraps) so no it's just meant to be mildly uncomfortable (I have gotten it in my own eyes & it is unpleasent but it is not harmful.
 

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I still don't see how that would be even close to necessary. He is NOT attacking her dogs, from the sounds of things he is a young boisterous lab with no manners who wants to play. There are much better ways to handle this situation.

I'm really just not following your line of thought.
 

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I wouldn't pepper spray, and being a lab, tossing cookies is not going to teach him much other than to come bug you MORE than he does. Plus your own dogs are going to go after the cookies too. Plus how many cookies is he going to eat. Plus.....

I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for two set times to be able to get your dogs out for a potty break. If possible I'd look at fencing of some kind too, if it's in the budget or at all something you can rig up. And I don't think being honest and saying 'your dog is pretty pushy with mine, I'd rather they not get to the point they get really annoyed and create issues'. You're not saying 'never let him loose' after all and more than willing to work with the landlord after all.

I don't get the mentality either, drives me nuts.
 

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Yeah, I'd still very ticked if you just sprayed my dog with an irritant without even mentioning to me that the dog was a problem. This dogs behavior doesn't sound like the behavior of an "ill bred" lab, it just sounds like a young, untrained and likely under socialized lab.
 

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I was just concerned because she mentioned that he was hurting her dogs & young boisterous dogs can be harmful. I have had many run ins with hound boisterous labs/retriever types. Again this is NOT a jab at responsible lab / lab mix / retriever mix owners as I have met many who are but I just don't have patience for someone who won't spend the time to train their dog regardless of the breed.

Though, it seems as tying up the dog when you are going for a potty break Im not suggesting to pepper spray I never mentioned pepper spray.
 

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