I need help...
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I don't understand how, by calling somebody a hoarder, somebody gets banned for 3 months.
Bringing me into a thread (well, multiple, that I think get mod-slapped for) that I was not participating in, (Jessie, however, was) spreading a rumour that Jessie and I are lovers, and then telling me that I am killing my ferrets got like, a week. If that.
What?
Bringing me into a thread (well, multiple, that I think get mod-slapped for) that I was not participating in, (Jessie, however, was) spreading a rumour that Jessie and I are lovers, and then telling me that I am killing my ferrets got like, a week. If that.
What?
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Oh Lord...must have missed that. 
I don't feel like anyone who's rude or has an unpopular and possibly inappropriate opinion is going to be banned for months...plenty of those people are still here.
I HOPE however, that anyone who's as downright demeaning and nasty to other posters on a very regular basis, with no or very little logical behind their posts, IS banned. For a very long time.
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Out of curiosity, have the people who think this person's banning was uncalled for participated in or read other threads in both the fire hydrant and dog forums where this person was equally rude?
Or noticed how in so many threads, they attack people based on things that are completely irrelevant, have nothing to do with the conversation, and so on?
Or noticed how in so many threads, they attack people based on things that are completely irrelevant, have nothing to do with the conversation, and so on?
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But I didn't know someone on the forum really did suggest being a prostitute.
But it wasn't an issue until this one.
There are certain threads and certains members who are seemingly untouchable and will get you banned for 4 months for speaking to them in the same way you would in most other threads with no repercussions and IMO that isn't fair.
If anything it's worse because it's not like it was personal.. Seven was the same way here as he is in A LOT of threads (a little blunt, stuck in his opinion, comes off pretty rude, sometimes douchey).. so really..why did this one get him banned? There was nothing spectacular about it.
I certainly don't think he is all sunshine and flowers but when did we start using the ban hammer for that long for being rude blunt or a douche?
and this is from someone who has NEVER been mod spanked or given a warning.. so it's not like I have some kind of vendetta. I just think the ban does not fit the "crime"
There are certain threads and certains members who are seemingly untouchable and will get you banned for 4 months for speaking to them in the same way you would in most other threads with no repercussions and IMO that isn't fair.
If anything it's worse because it's not like it was personal.. Seven was the same way here as he is in A LOT of threads (a little blunt, stuck in his opinion, comes off pretty rude, sometimes douchey).. so really..why did this one get him banned? There was nothing spectacular about it.
I certainly don't think he is all sunshine and flowers but when did we start using the ban hammer for that long for being rude blunt or a douche?
and this is from someone who has NEVER been mod spanked or given a warning.. so it's not like I have some kind of vendetta. I just think the ban does not fit the "crime"
Yeah, the thing is, we're all adults here. If there is a post that "hurts your feelings" - get over it, you're a grown up, and part of why I joined this forum is because people don't have to act like Mary Sunshine all the time.
Is it really *so* hard to ignore someone who is bothering you? Have we gotten to the point where freedom of speech is all fine and good until someone in charge gets their feelings hurt?
I find a lot of posters on here to be idiotic and I don't really care to waste my time reading what they post- but I don't feel the need to get them banned because I find what they say to be completely awful and stupid. SS is a smart guy, blunt, yes, but he provides entertainment and also a wealth of knowledge that is useful to this forum.
Is it really *so* hard to ignore someone who is bothering you? Have we gotten to the point where freedom of speech is all fine and good until someone in charge gets their feelings hurt?
I find a lot of posters on here to be idiotic and I don't really care to waste my time reading what they post- but I don't feel the need to get them banned because I find what they say to be completely awful and stupid. SS is a smart guy, blunt, yes, but he provides entertainment and also a wealth of knowledge that is useful to this forum.
Again I agree with Fran. He did, as Fran said, come off as rude, but I can't say I agree that there "no logic" behind his posts... in fact I quickly skimmed through and of stuff I would think "punishment worthy" there is some name calling ("bleeding heart") and calling her a hoarder (which I don't think it true). If someone else sees something that they really think is against forum rules, by all means post it. What I see is an opinion delivered without consideration for the OP's feelings... which isn't nice but I've seen worse. Other members have been banned several days in the past... I don't think this guy should be kicked out for 3 months.
Honestly, it just seems like this is a situation that requires focus, and having a blathering, cynical, unwavering and impractical opinion constantly pipe up to dilute the thread is just sort of unflattering and detracts from the ability to help a real-life situation. I think it's a bit different when its just chatter, but those posts were inappropriate, callous, and annoying. I personally find it a bit different in threads where it might not have a lot of gravity, but when there are tiny lives that do need your real life-opinions and forward thinking, that kind of thing just seems super high school - not entertaining whatsoever, just trivial and childish. SS should have stuck to reddit, 4chan, or somewhere he could be free and happy.
Because he's a total wiener.
Because he's a total wiener.
I actually find it to be a positive character trait to have conviction behind your opinion and to not be afraid to share it with others.
I do believe the definition of hoarder (or sliding into hoarding) would be continuing to obtain animals beyond your capabilities...for example, taking in more animals after you have lost your job. Perhaps if people weren't so nice about it (oh but she's doing a great thing, rescuing all these animals!), it wouldn't happen. I think the room looks OK but the numbers sound fairly large for a person out of work. I'm not trying to outwardly blame you PitBull but now that the situation is what it is, cutting down on numbers until you have a stable job is probably the best option. Personally I wouldn't be looking at surgeries if there were questions about being able to feed the lot.
What about contacting some local (decent) pet stores and seeing if you can surrender some of the rats to them? Yes there is a chance of them ending up as feeders, but the rats that are able to be handled have a change at being adopted as pets. At the store I work at, we do like getting surrenders because our usual stock of rats are not handled.
I do believe the definition of hoarder (or sliding into hoarding) would be continuing to obtain animals beyond your capabilities...for example, taking in more animals after you have lost your job. Perhaps if people weren't so nice about it (oh but she's doing a great thing, rescuing all these animals!), it wouldn't happen. I think the room looks OK but the numbers sound fairly large for a person out of work. I'm not trying to outwardly blame you PitBull but now that the situation is what it is, cutting down on numbers until you have a stable job is probably the best option. Personally I wouldn't be looking at surgeries if there were questions about being able to feed the lot.
What about contacting some local (decent) pet stores and seeing if you can surrender some of the rats to them? Yes there is a chance of them ending up as feeders, but the rats that are able to be handled have a change at being adopted as pets. At the store I work at, we do like getting surrenders because our usual stock of rats are not handled.
Yes! Except to the all adults part! It's the Internet, can't handle it step back. I find myself doing just that when I can't take certain people.
Hope the rats find a home.give yourself a number you can afford and give yourself a month to get there. Rehome healthy first,and if it comes to it,and it becomes an unhealthy situation you may have to put some down. It's life when you get overwhelmed. Bad side of rescues, seeing it with horses left and right.
Hope the rats find a home.give yourself a number you can afford and give yourself a month to get there. Rehome healthy first,and if it comes to it,and it becomes an unhealthy situation you may have to put some down. It's life when you get overwhelmed. Bad side of rescues, seeing it with horses left and right.
I have a bit to add to that. I find it a positive character trait when someone has conviction behind their opinions and knows how to share it maturely and argue their side in a level-headed fashion.
I think it's quite childish when people stoop to name-calling and petty jabs that are simply meant to hurt instead of professionally arguing their side.
That being said, I'm not sure a ban was really in order here. Yeah, the person in question may not have my respect and may even grate my nerves at times, but there was no warning and I'm not sure there were grounds for a ban.
I think it's quite childish when people stoop to name-calling and petty jabs that are simply meant to hurt instead of professionally arguing their side.
That being said, I'm not sure a ban was really in order here. Yeah, the person in question may not have my respect and may even grate my nerves at times, but there was no warning and I'm not sure there were grounds for a ban.
Yes, SevenSins was banned. Not for anything he said to the OP. He was told to knock it off and he didn't and gave his little "parting shot", which it turns out, it was.
Call the length excessive or not. It doesn't matter. Just because we've let a lot of things go in the past doesn't mean it will continue. It's one of the forum rules. Treat each other with respect. And it also says if you are contacted by a moderator about an issue, treat them with respect.
There is no "divide and conquer" here. We discussed it among the moderators and everyone was in agreement that a ban was in order. So it's done.
Call the length excessive or not. It doesn't matter. Just because we've let a lot of things go in the past doesn't mean it will continue. It's one of the forum rules. Treat each other with respect. And it also says if you are contacted by a moderator about an issue, treat them with respect.
There is no "divide and conquer" here. We discussed it among the moderators and everyone was in agreement that a ban was in order. So it's done.
I know nothing about rats because I'm not a rat person. Sorry.
But, to me, 40+ of any animal is ridiculous. And 40+ rats is scary. I would classify that as hoarding.
Saying snakes shouldn't eat rats doesn't make sense to me.
Beloved pets? I get that you can 'bond' with rats and other small animals but to have a relationship with each individual rat is not realistic, to me. Keep a few, move on.
Seven has been very welcoming to me. Everyone can be an ass. I have seen lots of of offensive, condescending, rude, mean, etc. posts. It seems like Seven is getting picked out because he doesn't dress it up.
No matter how you stand on this, it's a crappy situation. She has to get rid of some rats. He was giving her REALISTIC advice, IMO.
And no, I would not feed my dog to a tiger, but she is not a rat.
Sorry you're in bad times. Good luck with everything.
But, to me, 40+ of any animal is ridiculous. And 40+ rats is scary. I would classify that as hoarding.
Saying snakes shouldn't eat rats doesn't make sense to me.
Beloved pets? I get that you can 'bond' with rats and other small animals but to have a relationship with each individual rat is not realistic, to me. Keep a few, move on.
Seven has been very welcoming to me. Everyone can be an ass. I have seen lots of of offensive, condescending, rude, mean, etc. posts. It seems like Seven is getting picked out because he doesn't dress it up.
No matter how you stand on this, it's a crappy situation. She has to get rid of some rats. He was giving her REALISTIC advice, IMO.
And no, I would not feed my dog to a tiger, but she is not a rat.
Sorry you're in bad times. Good luck with everything.
So... How about giving those rats up to a rescue? Rescues have networks, savings, back up plans, and vet accounts. You got in over your head, there is no shame in handing the animals over. If they won't take the "lost causes", which is reasonable if they are cancer ridden and aggressive, then hand over every single adoptable and focus your finances and effort on those who're unadoptable while the others have a fighting chance with someone else. Take some of the weight off your shoulders.