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Wait.

So if you have no income.

You fill out a tax return and get 2500.00 for every kid you have?

Does this number go up or down if your income is higher???

Shouldn't it go up? Because you pay more in taxes? Or does it go down because you need less government money to feed your kid?

People think a lot of stupid things, so I'm sure plenty of people actually do think they're getting this stuff for "free", but I don't think that's the case with most voters.

Socialized medicine, education, etc. is working in MANY countries. That's undeniable. Their economies are strong, crime rates are low, unemployment is low, they're making strides in education, science, medicine. People there are happy with the way things are. That's just as much, if not more, incentive for people than $$$$$. People KNOW they pay much higher taxes in socialized countries. They just happen to think it's worth it. Not unemployed people, people on welfare, drug addicts, people abusing the system...successful doctors, lawyers, teachers, business owners in the community. They're willing to pay A LOT in taxes to further education, medicine, science, to give people who work hard and still can't afford privatized medicine, a chance.

I'm not saying it's better or worse than capitalism or fiscally conservative, republican American ideas. But it's what the majority of people want. And it's not because they're stupid or misinformed, it's because they value a lot of things over holding onto all their income, tooth and nail.

I'm pretty positive my income is low enough to qualify for that...I could freakin' take the kid to Disney world with that money. (I'm joking. Hopefully. I'll budget this stuff and let you guys know)

I think that's part of the issue...the government not only hands out food stamps, day care vouchers, rental assistance, tuition assistance, low-cost healthcare, which honestly is all good and fine, but do they really need to handing thousand of dollars essentially in cash to people who are ALREADY getting all of the above?

I don't get the impression that Canada is in turmoil or collapse....

name them. and then for every one you name i'll name one that is in turmoil &/or financial collapse.

Why is it suddenly scary or a new idea that some of us pay for other people's healthcare? I've been paying for other people's free healthcare my whole working life. Up until now it's just been called "my health insurance premium going up to cover all the people who went to the ER and got free health care despite not having insurance." At least now they can go to a regular doctor and earlier where it won't cost as much.

If Republicans want to move anywhere, of course they can't move to other highly advance countries since most of them are "socialist". Where they should move to is less advance countries, like some countries in Africa where religious belief is highly regarded, there are no entitlements so people who can't afford education can't go but those who can can go, health care is available to those who can pay for it and no one forces you to pay for someone else, rich can keep their money and don't have to share but of course can give donations.

Yep, I think that is perfect for them.

I don't know. Maybe not turmoil but I wouldn't say there aren't any issues. I know a lot of people in ontario (family and friends) who drive over an hour to cross the border and buy there groceries and fill up with gas in the US. Even figuring in the gas money to make that drive they are still saving a bundle doing it that way. They just can't afford to pay the full price plus the sales tax back home

you're mistaken (unless MN has a law other states don't) the insurance companies do NOT pay for indigents' use of emergency facilities. that is paid for by tax dollars from a federal program. if your insurance company told you that they lied.

yah, I'm not sure what they're driving, possibly huge trucks, cause it takes about an hour fifteen minutes to get to the border crossing from here, and it definitely is not cheaper to -- we used to go weekly. Not any more. Also, they must be eating all junk food, cause we don't pay tax on groceries.

this is why the founding fathers weren't huge fans of pure democracy. you're mistaken (unless MN has a law other states don't) the insurance companies do NOT pay for indigents' use of emergency facilities. that is paid for by tax dollars from a federal program. if your insurance company told you that they lied.

Personally I think anyone that actually *wants* to be POTUS is kinda crazy.

Well then, let's call it "health care providers raise their prices to cover costs and then my premiums go up in response." Either way, ultimately I'm paying for it and have been all along, regardless of how precise my previous wording was.