New Pictures of potential HORSE im buying need advice on hoof

ok well in my other post you all know i am going to be purchasing this horse. he is 6 years old. I went today to take a look at him. he is real nice a little shy. he is gelded. loads fine baths BUT he need some serious farrier work. we couldnt ride him well we could of but i didnt want to because his hooves are so long in the back and im concerned about his front left hoof any hoof experts out there?!?!
ALSO WHAT DO YOU THINK HE IS?

Unless he is free I don't think I would be taking him.. and even then only if I got to ride him and he was well broke.

For a good analysis we need some pictures of him standing up level and correctly. One can't make really good analysis when he is standing like drunken sailor.

I would suggest taking a very experienced horse person who knows your riding capabilities when you go back again.

Personally not a buy I would make. He is cute, but honestly without riding him I wouldn't take the gamble. Even if he was free I would be seriously reluctant because let's face it, there really isn't such a thing as a free horse. His legs look really off to me. It could be the way he is standing or it could be his hooves being too long, but something is definitely off. Have you had him checked for soundness? Is he just going to be a pasture buddy or are you actually planning to ride this horse?

lol Amber, I said free AND a good ride

Ya cute enough face but not built to last.

Does anyone else think his back legs look funny? Just would make me worry about current soundness and whether or not he may wind up lame or something worse down the road which could cause him not to be able to be ridden and potential hefty vet bills.

I don't like the looks of his front end especially. Do you know how to look for signs of founder? I would pass on this horse if it were me. But if you're serious about him, you should get a vet to check him all over and give you his opinion and also get a 2nd opinion from a very experienced horse person...plus be sure to ride him and have your helper ride him too, check out his temperament, how much training/manners (safety) he has etc.

Actually his back legs don't offend me much (not talking a high end show horse but pleasure horse type)

He has low set hocks (good) and a lot of hip (good) a bit of cow hockedness, but its the whole leg and that could just be weakness and a really really bad trim job. Many a long lived sound horse has legs that are slightly rotated.

Likely whats throwing you off are the really bad feet.

I wouldn't touch him even if he was free. What attracts you to this particular horse and what purpose are you looking at him for? Do you really want another one when you already have that mare who needs a lot of time and work? Would you still like him if he didn't have the color and pattern he does? Because he's going to be solid white in a couple years.

can you all give me an explanation why you would take him?

i also had a very experianced horseman go with us today. he told me hes real healthy and he did sit on him no buck or bite the only thing is his front hoof is clubbed and he needs serious farrier work asap

His poor feet! I second getting more eyes on him, especially when it comes to founder. You don't want to mess with that!

Those front legs look really painful to me. I don't think I'd take him even if he's free, either.

You couldn't pay me to touch a horse with a clubbed foot. That isn't just a matter of "trim it a little differently and it'll go away," though most farriers DO try to trim a club into looking "normal" and actually causing more serious issues by stressing the structures of the limb.

I wouldn't purchase with the intent of him being a sound riding horse.

Honestly he looks homely even to ME and I'm not really a horse person.

There are A LOT of horses out there to choose from, and horses are expensive to keep and vet. Experienced horse people say he has bad conformation and a cripple foot. I would personally be running away at this point lol. Be careful!!

Honestly I'd pass as well. His front foot being clubbed and he sort of looks off to me as well, could just be the slope but meh. He doesn't scream buy me now. Color is as always a matter of preference but I don't even like that and thats last on the list lol.

Maybe as a companion horse/pasture ornament but not as a potential riding horse.

This.

There's no reason to get this horse with the intent of a sound ride. He isn't built for it on many different levels from conformation to the clubbed foot. Just no, no all around.

The only way I would take this horse is if I had the space, money and will to give him a permanent home even if he turned out to be unsound for riding. If that is not an option for you, I would keep looking.

I'm not an expert in horse conformation, but even I can tell this horse is nothing but a bad decision. He's very cute, and I love his coloring - but he's a mess. His physical condition could be described as "meh" at best, and he screams "leg problems!"

I don't know how much they are asking for this guy, but you are better off spending your money elsewhere. I don't know how the market is near you, but in VA that horse would not be sold, he would be given away or sold for $100 to the kill buyer at auction. I'm not saying that to be judgmental, as I understand getting attached to a sweet horse that you want to bring home, but to pay for a horse in his condition is ridiculous.

If you go to auction you can often find broke, sound, solid horses who have simply fallen on hard times for $600 or less. Look at the fuglyhorseoftheday blog and search "auction." You can see a lot of examples of GREAT horses that went to kill because no one would bid $50 more than the kill buyer for them.

My suggestion is to take an experienced vet or trainer with you (buy them lunch & a drink or pay them for their time) and go to auction and save a horse that not only tugs at your heartstrings but is a good fit for yourself and your experience level. He's probably very sweet, but he'll be expensive and will not suit your needs. You can't save every one - try saving a horse that you'll be happy with 5 years down the road.

a clubbed foot isn't the end of the world for some light trail riding. I have known many a horse (even leased one) with a clubbed foot. All were sound riding horses.

BUT you need a farrier who knows what they are doing and the rest of the horse's legs need to be good.

WHY do you want this horse? IF you ride him (and you need a heck of a lot more than no buck no bite!!!! WTH? How about training level, quality of gaits, willingness to work, how calm the horse is. Do you have to hold him back, or push him? How is he alone on the trail (since that is an issue you have with your other one)

Simply I like him and he doesn't buck or bite isn't enough of a reason.

Too bad you arent' closer. I have a lovely older gelding with gaits (particularly his canter) to die for. Non spooky, very well trained, absolutely sound, and easy to work with. Fine hacking out alone, down a road etc etc even has show miles. He is looking for a new home. And that is the sort of horse you need to be looking at.

He's very cute and looks sad, so I understand why you might be tempted to take him out of that situation. However, from more experienced horse people's comments, it sounds like he wouldn't be a good fit for your situation.