Returning a dog to the breeder - Questions/Rant

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Also, in my experience, a young puppy certainly CAN reach that condition in only a couple or a few days.
Aaaand, the goalposts move again. But just so we are clear, is it your opinion that the breeder underfed him and then took pictures of him?
 

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Well then I don't know what to tell you. Because based on the pictures alone I'm inclined to believe the breeder.
Why is that? Because Teal has shown photos of the puppy in fair condition. You may not believe it to be good condition, but it is certainly not poor condition or abuse or neglect. There is a BIG difference between the photo of the puppy with Teal and the photo of it with the breeder. Some of you keep asking what the motivation would be for the breeder to lie.... Well, what would the motivation be for Teal to suddenly starve a puppy over the period of a few days while leaving the rest of her dogs magically healthy? Makes no sense. My conclusion? We don't know what happened to the puppy between Teal and the breeder. We can make guesses, but we can't KNOW. Neither side has more convincing evidence. And there certainly isn't enough evidence to attempt to slander someone.
 

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I don't know, I don't know what goes through RC's mind.
I asked you to post what you knew and how many times I have supposedly bred him? I'm still waiting to hear about how I abuse my dogs and how many times one had bred etc.
 

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Also, in my experience, a young puppy certainly CAN reach that condition in only a couple or a few days.

And, in reference to allowing an animal to die peacefully at home... I have allowed four different animals to pass while in my home and not at the vet. Sue me.
Oh lady you cannot be serious right now, wow.

And stop defending yourself, you CLEARLY understood what I said:rofl1:. Really, stop. You sound like you are proud that you HIT your dog on his nose, and you also seem very proud for HITTING your dog with leashes.

Please, enlighten me and tell me how does a puppy get so emaciated in 48 hours. Please tell me because you know the ways and I don't.
 

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Well then I don't know what to tell you. Because based on the pictures alone I'm inclined to believe the breeder.


Good for you.


Date change is not something that happens all the time, especially to a professional photographer. I am not a photographer myself but I have worked in a studio with professional photographers and it is not something that happens ALL THE TIME. Even if you edit a picture, the original data remains, like date picture was taken, opening of the lense, camera used, when the last editing took place, etc.

And I would like to know your opinion on what happened to the puppy to get SO thin in 48 hours, just your opinion on what happened nothing more.


I honestly don't know what to tell you about the date change. I was using Photobucket for editing and uploading then... I would take the memory card out of my camera, insert into my computer. Upload to my computer. Cull the ones I didn't want. Upload to Photobucket. Edit and do some more culling. Save finished photos to my computer. The end. Like I said - the only date thing I do is putting the date in the file name, so my pictures stay in order in their files on my computer. I can take screenshots of whatever you want to see to prove that... if I do the right click on the image, and the info thingy... is that the date you're talking about?
 

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Oh lady you cannot be serious right now, wow.

And stop defending yourself, you CLEARLY understood what I said:rofl1:. Really, stop. You sound like you are proud that you HIT your dog on his nose, and you also seem very proud for HITTING your dog with leashes.

Please, enlighten me and tell me how does a puppy get so emaciated in 48 hours. Please tell me because you know the ways and I don't.
And you sound <removed> that stretches absolutely everything.
 
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Why is that? Because Teal has shown photos of the puppy in fair condition. You may not believe it to be good condition, but it is certainly not poor condition or abuse or neglect. There is a BIG difference between the photo of the puppy with Teal and the photo of it with the breeder.
Just because you keep saying this, it doesn't make it so. In the picture with the puppy sitting, I think it looks quite thin. Really ribby. I think it is underweight. I can't compare it exactly with the breeder's photos because the angles are completely different. But I think that puppy is too thin even in Teal's picture.

Neither side has more convincing evidence.
I find the pictures convincing. *shrug*
 

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Just because you keep saying this, it doesn't make it so. In the picture with the puppy sitting, I think it looks quite thin. Really ribby. I think it is underweight. I can't compare it exactly with the breeder's photos because the angles are completely different. But I think that puppy is too thin even in Teal's picture.



I find the pictures convincing. *shrug*


And I personally think your dogs are overweight. So, that's a mature of opinion. (I'm not trying to be a bitch, I'm being honest)


around the 26th/29th per what you said on this thread.


Can you quote that for me please? I have a raging migraine from all this, and cannot read through however many pages to attempt to find it.
 

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My dogs are lean. I feel that puppy is too thin in your last 2 pics of him. You got comfortable and thought no one would ever find out what happened to him. Well,they did.
 

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And I personally think your dogs are overweight. So, that's a mature of opinion. (I'm not trying to be a bitch, I'm being honest)




Can you quote that for me please? I have a raging migraine from all this, and cannot read through however many pages to attempt to find it.
the dates between when you said he was there and the time you said he was gone.
 

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