Oh my! 77lb Dachshund!

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Honestly, if I had taken this dog on and I had already developed a plan for how I was going to get him to lose weight, I probably wouldn't listen to any "advice" either. No matter how well intentioned it was... and honestly most of it is more about being critical and right IMO than giving well-intentioned advice... any diet is going to need a chance to work, and I would give what I had decided to do time to work rather than jump around from one thing to the next based on FB comments from god-knows-who.

I mean, just look at this thread here where most of what people have to say is grousing about how she's feeding the dog from ONE picture of ONE bowl of carrots, and imagine that negative crap on your progress page. I wouldn't want that on my FB page, either, honestly.

If you don't like it, don't look at it. If you think the money stuff is hinky, then don't donate. If you think she doesn't know jack about nutrition, then feed the 77 pound doxie you take in however you like. But jebus, it has nothing to do with any of us.

For some reason this thread here is really getting under my skin out of all proportion to its actual importance in my life. It just really bothers me how something that should clearly be something everyone can get behind - taking in an obese rescue and trying to get him to lose weight - just turns into another steaming pile of OMG UR DOING IT WROOOONGGGGG!!!11!!
Yup^^^ most people just want to be right as opposed to giving sound, concerned advice. Carrots is a helluva lot better then other things and there was only one picture of carrots posted.... Raw feeders aren't the only dog owners out there... and it isn't the only efficient way of feeding. I hope that this dog can recover :(
 

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I'm confused. Why would a fat dog need donations to get healthy? How much does it take to buy a leash?
Exactly! After the initial vet visit & labwork were paid for, what else does she need donations for? Clearly she will be buying less dog food ;) hehe. Send some $$ this way for my emaciated dog's way too expensive food instead... Hehe.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with being worried about and critiquing the way someone else cares for a dog if you feel it could be done different/better. Once again, if she didn't want those comments, she shouldn't have made a Facebook!
 

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I'm confused. Why would a fat dog need donations to get healthy? How much does it take to buy a leash?
I don't get this either. A vet visit and labwork is really not that expensive. What else is there to pay for since he is apparently healthy aside from being disgustingly fat?

Otherwise. That is the most roly poly fat dog I have ever seen.
 

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I don't see anything wrong with being worried about and critiquing the way someone else cares for a dog if you feel it could be done different/better. Once again, if she didn't want those comments, she shouldn't have made a Facebook!
I'm pretty sure that every single person on here could care for their dogs in a different/better way....
 

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I am not too worried about how she is feeding the dog. If it is losing weight then thats fine and I hope it continues to.

My issue is that all it takes is one thing like this to have it come out that all the donations aren't going to that dog to turn people off from donating. It may not be a rescue or a shelter so the rational thing would be to realize they aren't connected. But as we know people aren't rational and I'd rather not have people not wanting to donate to legitimate causes because they got burned when they thought they were helping.

Me pointing out their failure in posting costs and donations isn't me saying 'omgz they doing it wrong!!' it's pointing out that what they are doing is kind of shady and people don't really know where their money is going.
This. ^^ The giant donation button thingy at the top of their page made my spidey-senses tingle, and not in a good way. I kind of wondered if they'd only gotten $10 so far and really needed money to help, or if they're secretly rolling in $10,000 in donations. Who knows? They're not sharing. :dunno:

Also, I don't really care how someone wants to moderate their facebook page. It's their page. But I also don't see why we can't discuss stuff like this on Chaz. There's been a ton of helpful information on good alternatives to carrots for helping dogs feel full. People lurk, and if one person come away from this thread with better tools for helping their dogs get to a healthy weight then that's cool.
 

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Definitely. I don't disagree with that. So what's wrong with constructive criticism or suggestions?
I'm not entirely sure that having every random internet person and their brother say how THEY think this dog (who they have never met or examined) should be fed/exercised/etc, IS very constructive. Sometimes people don't want suggestions, they just want support. However, we live in a culture where we tend to believe that since we have a right to an opinion and that everyone NEEDS to hear said opinion, so we tend to get all hot and bothered when someone tells us that (God forbid!) they have no interest in what we have to say.

The dog is under a vet's care, it's losing weight-support her or let her be.
 

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The thing is, if she doesn't want opinions, she shouldn't have made a Facebook page.
 

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^ Yes. And ask for donations!!!!!? That opens you up to critique.

I've heard many words of encouragement from certified nutritionists about keeping my dog full. I have never been told to feed carrots. Green beans, pureed leafy greens, etc but I was told specifically to avoid carrots. It's not that big of a deal... but who cares if people want to speculate on things like that? Should we just stfu if they were feeding him Beneful weight management too? I don't feel it's affecting them for us to discuss the dog's diet on this forum.
 

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^ Yes. And ask for donations!!!!!? That opens you up to critique.

I've heard many words of encouragement from certified nutritionists about keeping my dog full. I have never been told to feed carrots. Green beans, pureed leafy greens, etc but I was told specifically to avoid carrots. It's not that big of a deal... but who cares if people want to speculate on things like that? Should we just stfu if they were feeding him Beneful weight management too? I don't feel it's affecting them for us to discuss the dog's diet on this forum.
Why were you told to avoid carrots? I feed carrots daily to one of my dogs. It's part of a diet that was formulated by a very knowledgable nutritionist. Just like with everything else it's all about moderation.
 

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Carrots turn to sugar. That's definitely not ideal for an obese dog. Especially not a whole bowl full.
 

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The thing is, if she doesn't want opinions, she shouldn't have made a Facebook page.
That's just silly. I have a Facebook page and I don't want every random person telling me how I should take care of my dogs, cats, or birds unless I ask for their opinions. Maybe she started the Facebook page for support and to bring awareness to the very real problem of pet obeseity....
 

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^ Yes. And ask for donations!!!!!? That opens you up to critique.

I've heard many words of encouragement from certified nutritionists about keeping my dog full. I have never been told to feed carrots. Green beans, pureed leafy greens, etc but I was told specifically to avoid carrots. It's not that big of a deal... but who cares if people want to speculate on things like that? Should we just stfu if they were feeding him Beneful weight management too? I don't feel it's affecting them for us to discuss the dog's diet on this forum.
Maybe the dog won't eat those things? Maybe nutricionsts have different ways of going about feeding a morbidly obese dog? Apparently it IS a big deal judging by all the "ZOMG carrots!" comments--it isn't Beneful, it's carrots. What bothers me is the insinuation that somehow these people are incompitant because they are feeding the dog carrots, when they are under the advice of a vet, nutritionist, and the dog is losing weight-it just seems incredibly negative and nit-picky. I think it's fantastic that these people have taken this in and are helping this dog--this story could have easily ended up with a dead dachshund.
 

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Facebook is a social networking site...speaking with "random people" and getting opinions is the POINT of the site. Lol.
 
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Facebook is a social networking site...speaking with "random people" and getting opinions is the POINT of the site. Lol.
:confused: There isn't ONE point of social networking sites. Just like there isn't ONE way to get a morbidly obese dog to lose weight. :)

I have a page for my mushing stuff, just to keep it all in one place and off my personal page. It's not there to harvest unsolicited advice, it's there to share stuff with people who are interested. If random strangers were annoying me and nit-picking me there, I'd probably delete the comments, too. Why would I want to see that stuff in my space?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and everyone else is entitled to their opinion of that opinion. My opinion of the ZOMG CARROTS in response to a single picture is that it's a silly overreaction. My opinion of the "feed him broccoli instead" comments is that for a dog this obese who is going to be losing weight over a long period of time, feeding high calcium veggies every day over that entire period could potentially cause its own problems and I think it's a better idea to rotate different vegetables. Even if one of them is carrots.
 

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Then I guess your response isn't to me, because I already stated that my reaction wasn't the response to one photo.
 

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