Recommendations for my bro please

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What would you guys recommend for my brother? He wants a dog of his "own" (Katalin has NEVER been handled by him, blows him off completely - and beside the point he doesn't like big dogs).

He had his heart completely set on a female Norwich terrier puppy. I shouted him down about not getting a female for Katalin's sake (I don't want any bitch fights or blood drawn in their maturity) or a terrier - explaining that they have extremely high drives, nearly inexhaustible energy levels, and are ALOT of dog to handle. He will not be dissuaded about getting his own puppy soon though - but has conceded to another non-terrier type - it's still going to be a female though...

I've explained that this is NOT the time to be bringing a puppy home with Katalin not even at a year old yet nor fully trained either. He will NOT be convinced otherwise and I've got a feeling we will be expecting a new member of the family quite soon.... Oh well, let's make the best of it then.

He wants something:

Playful yet un-hyper
Health issue free (relatively)
Lap/bed ornament like
Very affectionate/cuddly
Something that doesn't require a huge amount of work to be a good pet
Very eager to please/can learn tricks quickly

I've recommended miniature Aussies, mini American Eskimos, PW corgi, low-drive Papillion, low-drive Maltese, toy poodle, or Coton. I realize the options I've listed don't exactly fit the criteria to a tee but my brother is irresponsible, immature and will ultimately leave alot of the work to my and my parents. So these are all small dogs that I could stand having on walks/training sessions with Katalin and that I could return to him for his cuddles/tricks/whatever after the "work" they require to keep them sane and under control is completed.

Anyone have any further suggestions or tips?
 

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Does it have to be small? What about a greyhound?

Or the local shelter special of the week, something low key? Maybe bring him down to the shelter and check the dogs out.
 

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a big stick to whack your brother upside the head with?
:lol-sign:

...He wants something:

Playful yet un-hyper
Health issue free (relatively)
Lap/bed ornament like
Very affectionate/cuddly
Something that doesn't require a huge amount of work to be a good petVery eager to please/can learn tricks quickly
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Not to sound snarky or anything, but a stuffed dog would be my suggestion. Especially after reading the bolded part.
 

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I really wouldn't recommend a mini Aussie, a Corgi, or an American Eskimo. Without getting thebright dog from the right lines, he's likely to end up with a hyperactive, neurotic mess. Aussies aren't easy dogs by any means, Corgis tend to have DA/reaction issues, and every ill bred Eskie I've met has been insane.

First thing that popped into my head was a Cavilier King Charles, but they have health issues. An Italian Greyhound, but they are very difficult to housebreak. Smal toy breeds - poodle, Maltese, bichon, Shih Tzu, etc. They are happy enough dogs that it would be hard to really screw them up...of course, training and socialization is still super important to avoid issues, but they're happier fulfilling a pet role than other breeds and don't typically need an experienced handiler.
 

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Any dog that is going to be easy to train/willing to please is most likely never going to be a "bed ornament". Aussies, Eskie's, Papillons and Corgis should probably be crossed off that list quickly.

I would also recommend a stuffed animal. Or maybe a goldfish.

But if this is going to happen either way.... Pugs tend to be good family pets, and enjoy being active when they can be, or just lounging around the house if they have to. Shihtzu's tend to be playful enough, yet pretty low energy. Japanese Chin, Pekingese?

Of course, ANY dog should get some form of exercise, and attention, and need training. But these are just breeds that came to mind for maybe not as high maintenance, and would be happy just being a house pet.
 

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I would definitely say no to a MAS or a papillon if you're looking for something 'not hyper' and 'that doesn't need much work'. MAS can be a lot of dog and my papillons are all very needy dogs who tend to get labelled as 'hyper' by most people that meet them.

Eskies and corgis are not what comes to mind either.
 

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I would reccomend a Shih-Tzu. Every one I've ever met is very calm, and good with other dogs.

Disclaimer: I did have one that fought with my other dogs so we had to rehome her, but later we came to the conclusion that one of our other dogs was starting it, because they ended up fighting amongst each other as well. So yes, they did fight (and she was bigger/stronger than my two tiny Yorkies) but not because she started it.
 

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...But if this is going to happen either way.... Pugs tend to be good family pets, and enjoy being active when they can be, or just lounging around the house if they have to. Shihtzu's tend to be playful enough, yet pretty low energy. Japanese Chin, Pekingese?

Of course, ANY dog should get some form of exercise, and attention, and need training. But these are just breeds that came to mind for maybe not as high maintenance, and would be happy just being a house pet.
But they are high maintenance- Shihs, Chins and Pekes need regular grooming to prevent mats, etc. And they all can have issues with the heat, especially Pugs and Pekes. The OP stated her brother is irresponsible, immature, so I doubt he'd want to deal with any of that.
 

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What about a greyhound or a whippet? Although I will echo what others have said, your brother sounds like he should have a stuffed dog instead.
 
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He wants something:

Playful yet un-hyper
Health issue free (relatively)
Lap/bed ornament like
Very affectionate/cuddly
Something that doesn't require a huge amount of work to be a good pet
Very eager to please/can learn tricks quickly
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Um, close enough

Here's his new dog :p!



Even though I've read of a lot of problem with Dachsies, he's actually been pretty good *coughbetterthanmine!*, maybe a Dachshund? They come is 3 coat style and two convenient sizes :D!
 

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My step brother and sister in law are pretty lazy dog owners and have had success with their shih-Tzu. They require a lot of grooming, but groomer could be paid to do that, specially if the dog is kept in a short chipped coat.
 

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Cavalier, maybe. There is a huge issue with heart problems in the breed though. Lhasa, Shih Tzu or Peke, if kept in a clipped coat, maybe. However, Lhasas can be incredibly mean if ill-bred, Shih Tzu's have issues with liver shunts and temperaments and Peke's have their own set of issues.

Someone who is irresponsible and immature doesn't need to be getting a puppy. Well, they don't need a live dog period, but that doesn't seem to be stopping him. Go with something a little older, like close to 2 years of age, from the shelter. Better idea of personality, most likely going to be housebroken already.
 

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Whatever the breed, I agree with going with an adult. It sounds like your brother doesn't have the desire or patience to deal with a puppy and all their maintenance, but an adult might actually be a good fit for him.
 

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Playful yet un-hyper
Health issue free (relatively)
Lap/bed ornament like
Very affectionate/cuddly
Something that doesn't require a huge amount of work to be a good pet
Very eager to please/can learn tricks quickly
I don't see what's so wrong with this bolded criteria. Quite a few people out there want good dogs without spending months or years getting there. Not everybody has the ability, time or desire to start from a completely blank slate. How does that make them completely unsuitable to own a dog?

Have him get an adult dog from a shelter or breed rescue. There are plenty of well-trained, housebroken, socialized, loving dogs waiting there for just the right home. Plenty of great dogs are surrendered daily for reasons that aren't their fault. Perhaps their owners moved, or faced health or financial disasters that made them unable to hold on to their pet. Or perhaps the owner even passed away. A dog like that can fit right in to a new family with a minimal adjustment period and not an excessive amount of effort.
 

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I agree with shih tzu. One of my friends has one and they just get him clipped every once in a while. Also, you can put a bow on their head and make them look girly even if it is a boy.

A whippet might be good too. They tend to be non destructive, quiet, and laze about the house when people aren't engaging them. Minimal grooming, and they tend to have good dog sense and like to avoid conflicts with housemates. Being sort of curvy and girlyish looking, he might be talked into a really cool individual male.
 

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My problem is what's 'a good pet' and what is 'a huge amount of work'? Everyone has different thoughts on both of those. I think Mia and Summer are super easy and not much work but my family finds them needy and obnoxious and hyper. To them walking the dog an hour a day is too much work.
 

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