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Wow that's pretty pathetic. With so many bigger problems in schools and THIS is what they focus on?

BUT.... that being said

"If my account is on my own personal account, I don't think the school or anybody should be looking at it. Because it's my own personal stuff and it's none of their business,†said Carroll.
Welcome to the real world sonny. What you post on a public forum can be seen by anyone no matter if they should be looking at it or not. and welcome to the new reality that jobs are now checking these things too.

Right or wrong... you better learn how to keep things private. A valuable lesson in "anything you put on the internet can and WILL be seen by someone you probably don't want to see it" Lesson learned I hope.

But yeah... expulsion? that's outrageous
 

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Wow.
If using the f-word is grounds for expulsion, like 85% of my high school should have been expelled. And that was before Twitter.
 

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“I didn't post the thing at school but their computer is saying that I did post it, and I shouldn't be getting in trouble for stuff I did on my own time, on my own computer,†said Carroll.
If he can prove he posted this on his own time from home, then I don't see how they can do this. Even if he DID post this from school, expulsion is pretty harsh for profanity especially since it's not directed towards anyone in particular!
 

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They are missing an opportunity here. Clearly the boy needs to stay in school and work on his vocabulary.
 
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I don't really have any words other than **** those ****ing mother ****ers.

really

but I remember in high school yelling **** right in the face of my comp and grammer teacher. It was morning, i was picking up my backpack to put in my locker, and the strap broke. In the motion of standing up from being bent over and looking down, to my feet and it broke, I yelled **** right when I stood up, and i happend to stand up right in my teacher's face.

I thought I was done for. She just looked at me, didn't say a word and went to her class and I stood dumbfounded for a minute or two wondering if she was coming back to cut my tongue out or something.

later that day in actual class everyone brought it up and she just said the look on my face told her no further punishment was necessary. Glad I didn't get kicked out
 

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If he posted it at home then it should be up to the parents to deal with it. If he posted it at school then the school should deal with it. I think permanent expulsion is way excessive though.
I think schools now days worry to much about what children do outside of school and try to control that and discipline for matters they shouldn't, then stuff they should be worrying about.
 

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Just wanted to say I showed this story to my 12 year old son and even HE sees the illogicalness of it! LOL He knows (and said) tweets are time stamped not only dated..........so how in the world can it be hard to prove when/where the tweet was made?
 

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.so how in the world can it be hard to prove when/where the tweet was made?
Frankly, who cares? The kid was a senior in high school, and thus probably 18 years old. Yes, if he sent it on school time and a school computer, and got caught at it, it should be disciplined . . . but for the love of all that is holy, why are they policing his tweets? Why are they bothering to try and figure out where he sent a tweet from that, although it contained a dirty word, was not offensive in its content nor directed at any particular person? Who the f*ck cares? Unless they caught him in the act, why the f*ck are the expending energy on it?

Edit: Although I concur with the statement that he needs to get used to the idea that the internet isn't private, I also agree with the kid . . . why are they monitoring his tweets? Why are they disciplining him so severely for what is, at most a minor offense, and if it was sent off campus, shouldn't be an offense at all? What business is it of theirs?
 

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Frankly, who cares? The kid was a senior in high school, and thus probably 18 years old. Yes, if he sent it on school time and a school computer, and got caught at it, it should be disciplined . . . but for the love of all that is holy, why are they policing his tweets? Why are they bothering to try and figure out where he sent a tweet from that, although it contained a dirty word, was not offensive in its content nor directed at any particular person? Who the f*ck cares? Unless they caught him in the act, why the f*ck are the expending energy on it?

Edit: Although I concur with the statement that he needs to get used to the idea that the internet isn't private, I also agree with the kid . . . why are they monitoring his tweets? Why are they disciplining him so severely for what is, at most a minor offense, and if it was sent off campus, shouldn't be an offense at all? What business is it of theirs?
Definitely! In my first post I said expulsion for profanity was ridiculous..........especially since it wasn't directed at anyone in particular! It was just a post talking about the F word itself, LOL

I would imagine they aren't necessarily 'policing' his tweets........they most likely have a set up that monitors where the kids visit, what they do while there, etc etc I'm also assuming he logged into his twitter account at school and that's when the flags started going off? I'm sure visiting profane sites on school comps is a big no no, that doesn't just mean sexual sites.

Hence my time stamp statement..........if this is the whole story, he could easily prove he was not at school using school property to write things against school rules. Period.

IDK...........the only way this makes even a spec of sense is if this isn't his first offense but perhaps his last straw? I really wish the school had chosen to comment

EDIT: Trust me, I know how asinine and obstinate the school can be about the dumbest things nowadays.........ESPECIALLY here in Indiana, LOL ;)
 
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I am really sick of all of this stuff. Scrawling the letter " F U C K principal Smith" on the gym floor is reason for expulsion. Writing it on the bathroom wall is reason for suspension. Writing a saying with the word in it, not directed at anyone with any intent on twitter isn't even something that should be checked.

I don't care if it was written at school on an iphone, on a school computer or at home. It shouldn't matter. We have all these **** laws. I hate all of them, from the drug testing, to smoking and especially computer privacy type stuff.

I hate that a teacher can't send an off color joke thru a school email without it being against the law. a worker can't surf a message board at work without the employer being allowed by law to go back and examine every key stroke they made on the computer that day.

Employers asking for facebook and twitter passwords and logins, your cell phone can tell everyone exactly where you are at every minute of every day. it's all getting a bit ridiculous.

It isn't to keep people safe. It isn't to save money, it's so people can have an excuse to do what they've always wanted to do, PRY into others lives.
 

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