Rimadyl - Long term use?

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I've been googling, and reading drug information and testimonials about Rimadyl. Kiba was given a week-long trial of it to see if it helps with her knee. She's taken 3 doses so far (she takes it twice a day right now) and my ol' girl is back. From what I can find, the major side effects of this drug are Liver and Kidney problems, as well as GI upset and possible ulceration.

Has anyone heard good/bad things personally about long-term use of Rimadyl?
 

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I've done a bit of research into Rimadyl because of Murphy and his reaction to it, but I've never had a dog on it long term. From what I know, dogs should get a blood test before they start on it and every 1-2 months while they are on it to check liver and kidney functionality. The anecdata I've found on dogs that don't do well on it seems to indicate that they crashed pretty quickly and that most vets didn't do a blood screen prior to prescribing it (it reminds me of how some dogs react badly to grapes while some don't).

I don't know. I know some people that swear by it and some that are wary of it (including me).

ETA: I would insist on a pre-trial blood screen. And blood screenings every month, but that's mostly because of Murphy and how badly he freaked me out over it. YMMV.
 
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Hey, I'm not sure what the issue is that's being treated with Rimadyl, but have you tried anything else yet?

I know of many people (including high level agility competitors) who absolutely love Sasha's Blend. http://www.sashasblend.com/

I'm not sure if it's even applicable to your situation, but it might be worth looking into as a safe alternative.
 

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It works great for a lot of dogs. Not sure I'd be excited to use it daily in a dog as young as Kiba unless it was really and truly necessary. Use the lowest dose that works.

Our policy at work is recheck bloodwork 2-3 weeks after starting, and then provided everything is normal, every six months.

Are you using any supplements? I'd be using a good Glucosamine/Chondroitin supplement as well as an Omega Three Fatty Acids supplement.

I am very grateful for how much Rimadyl helps my Luce girl feel better when her knees are bugging her. I only need to use it as needed right now, but I fully expect for her to need it daily down the line.
 

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My parents' dog Max was on it for a long time and it helped him initially, and then it stopped (progression of everything, not really anything to do with the meds). The one thing that helped him even towards the end was Deramax.

At work we have pretty much the same policy elegy described.
 

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Our vet did not mention anything about getting blood tests, so I'll be putting in a call about that tomorrow. The vet told me after the first week, we could do it daily or as needed - though I am not sure now how to tell when it is need - when Kiba is limping again? I have put her on a glucosamine/chondriton/msm, Vitamin C, and Fish Oil supplements.

Do you think it wise to ask for a different medication than the Rimadyl?
And her dx was a mildly slipping right knee, and her weird gait on the other side (the one I noticed) was most likely due to overcompensating for the discomfort).
 

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Shamoo is on it daily for a couple weeks then phased off then back on. She's been like this for about a year and a half and we haven't had any negative effects yet. Of course she's an old lady and I wouldn't be thrilled to do this for a young dog.
 

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Oh I meant to mention earlier, Gavroche can't do Rimadyl. He gets diarrhea and just looks out of it when he takes it.
 

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I saw zero effect when Buzz was on it. He takes Previcox, with a noticeable difference.

However, Bailey responds well to the carprofens (I get the generic Vetprofen) so I used to keep it on hand for her as needed. I ran out a while back and just called a refill in (I'd been using Buzz's previcox which is more expensive).

ETA: They both get bloodwork at least annually.
 

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Do you think it wise to ask for a different medication than the Rimadyl?
If the Rimadyl is working, then I think Rimadyl is fine. The recommendations and risks are all pretty similar for all the standard non-steroidal anti-inflammatories (Rimadyl, Deramaxx, Metacam, Previcox, etc).
 

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It would be odd for a young dog to be put on rimadyl long term for something that could be fixed, like a luxating patella, ime. Has your vet mentioned any other treatment options?

All the people I know with dogs that have patella issues have said their vets recommend surgery sooner rather than later to avoid arthritic changes - if she's already in pain then it sounds like you might want to explore all of your options before just taking the rimadyl. Perhaps even a second opinion?
 

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The vet didn't mention anything about else, the only thing was that it was very mild and only slipped "some". I honestly really didn't think to ask, because she didn't bring it up, and to try the Rimadyl and see if that worked. Kiba's 7.5, so no young thing, but quite a few years ahead I want to keep her as sound as possible.

Thank you everyone for your help!
 

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A little slip shouldn't be causing pain though, so I wonder what else might be going on. I have a friend who has a couple of dogs with structural issues that they compensate for, but rather than using drugs, she's been able to treat with supplements and regular chiropractic care to help put things back in the right place - might be worth looking into for Kiba, too. :)
 

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A little slip shouldn't be causing pain though, so I wonder what else might be going on. I have a friend who has a couple of dogs with structural issues that they compensate for, but rather than using drugs, she's been able to treat with supplements and regular chiropractic care to help put things back in the right place - might be worth looking into for Kiba, too. :)
Yeah and this has only come up within the last few months. The only big thing that changed was we haven't done any agility since June and she's finally thinned down to a healthy weight.
 

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If you just started up with agility again I'd worry about a pulled muscle or other overuse injury. At minimum she needs to be pulled from agility until this is resolved - even though she's not painful when on meds, further strenuous activity could leave lasting damage.

If I were in your shoes I'd be getting a second opinion.
 

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If you just started up with agility again I'd worry about a pulled muscle or other overuse injury. At minimum she needs to be pulled from agility until this is resolved - even though she's not painful when on meds, further strenuous activity could leave lasting damage.

If I were in your shoes I'd be getting a second opinion.
We haven't done agility since June.
 

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Oh - I thought it sounded like you might've just started back at it recently after a hiatus.
 

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Oh I meant to mention earlier, Gavroche can't do Rimadyl. He gets diarrhea and just looks out of it when he takes it.
Interesting. Murphy looks tweaked out when he takes it and he gets scary aggressive. I've only had him on it twice (once was not on purpose) and both times he got in a fight. My vet says that he is the only dog she's ever heard of that gets aggressive on it though so I guess he's the 1%.
 

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When I had to give it to one of my dogs, the vet had me give her the herbal pill "Milk Thistle" to help prevent damage to her organs. He was the one vet we had that believed in holistic medicine along with traditional.
 

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