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I think JCM's Dog Training School is awesome. One can go to the top dog training schools in the nation and still not know as much as someone whom is truly naturally gifted. The lady that teaches is a genuine dog whisperer. I was blown away when I saw what her dogs could do.
 

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Hahaha...

If you want to self promote, it's usually better to hide your screen name a bit better. And also to research your audience. People here don't like the dog whisperer. And they DO like a lot of the top dog training schools.
 

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8 weeks of private lessons.. 700 dollars *pees self* For that cost I could go work with Susan Garrett not someone whose claim t fame is first place on Pet Star. Lord.

"We don't use food rewards we form a partnership".. yuck. What quality.. not. "food in dog training can also have detrimental consequences." Nice. No wonder ones claim to fame is pet star and not a title or 10.

Go peddle yourself elsewhere.
 

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Food reward is not a practical form of training, so no treats are used in our program. The dog and owner should form a partnership based on communication, not manipulation. In other words, your dog should listen to you, not a piece of food. In addition, using food obligates the owner into carrying a food pouch everywhere. The use of food in dog training can also have detrimental consequences.
Perhaps you may want to tell that to the national and world champion types that they have been doing it wrong :rofl1:

This paragraph more than the rest, the price etc tells me to steer far away from a place such as this. If you want to train with no food, thats great. But to show such a fundamental lack of understanding is dismaying. A dog trained with food does not obey 'the food' and can have a very real relationship as one trained with toys. And a much better relationship than one where the dog fears your response.
 

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The dog and owner should form a partnership based on communication, not manipulation.
**Sits down and has a nice long chat with her dogs
**Gets pounced on, licked, bitten, barked at, peed on
**Heads for the bag of food
**Gets four quietly sitting dogs

I guess I'm doing something wrongly?
 

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Perhaps you may want to tell that to the national and world champion types that they have been doing it wrong :rofl1:...
We're thinking along the same lines, Dekka. I'd also like to ask how many 200's she's or her students have gotten in the obedience ring.;)
 

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Well food can be used as a aid to communication. Its a away of saying you do as I wish and sometimes there is something in it for you. I do notice the OP has a golden. They might be whistling a different tune if they had a terrier or a hound.
 

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The OP lists only three things on their training equipment page: a leash, a prong collar and a choke collar.

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Properly applied corrections, balanced with properly timed praise, reinforces leadership
Because yeah, those don't manipulate the dog at all. :rolleyes:

Doesn't use inappropriate training aids (harness, buckle collar, nylon or cotton leashes, gentle leader, Halti)
OK then...

JCM's Obedience Training Program adheres to the regulations and standards set forth by the
AKC (American Kennel Club)
*scratches head*
What exactly are the AKC "regulations and standards" in regards to TRAINING??
 

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yes we all know causing pain is the BEST way to form a relationship /sarcasm

(I am not saying everyone who uses prong collars are sabotaging their relationship with their dog, but it shouldn't be your primary tool for communication with your dog)
 

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:rofl1: when I hear that a trainer only uses corrections, prongs and chokes.........tells me that can't get it any other way other than using force, yeah thats dog training :D

I would also suggest that the OP spend that kind of money on anyone of the GREAT trainers out there, that don't have to resort to force, prongs etc.

And the truely funny thing is, good trainers.........don't have to come onto dog forums to drum up business :D
 

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And the truely funny thing is, good trainers.........don't have to come onto dog forums to drum up business :D
Exactly what I was thinking. :) I've had more training clients than I can handle this month - December, BY FAR the slowest month of the year for dog trainers - and the only way my company advertises is through a website, a vet's office, and word of mouth. :D
 
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I went to the jcm website. I found the site informative. The lady is in the Obedience Hall of Fame for Christ sake. I feel sorry for the dogs owned by the negative posters on this site, because it is their dogs who are suffering at the hands of their ignorant owners.
 

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I went to the jcm website. I found the site informative. The lady is in the Obedience Hall of Fame for Christ sake. I feel sorry for the dogs owned by the negative posters on this site, because it is their dogs who are suffering at the hands of their ignorant owners.
According to my google search, you've done more than go to the website.

Gotta love the tag team :spam: approach.
 

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Jealousy doesn't become people. Most people want their dog trained. If a trainer can have a dog working 100% off leash in 8 weeks, I think that's saying something. I went the food / clicker route and I came to the realization that it can be taught by anybody. Trainers like Cesar "Dog Whisperer" Milan are the real dog trainers. People that disagree don't know anything about dogs. Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are not furry people.
I have a word of advice: "You stop telling lies about other people and they will stop telling the truth about you."
 

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I went the food / clicker route and I came to the realization that it can be taught by anybody. Trainers like Cesar "Dog Whisperer" Milan are the real dog trainers. People that disagree don't know anything about dogs. Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are not furry people.
Food/clicker training can be TAUGHT by anybody because it has scientific proof behind it, because it WORKS for the vast majority of dogs, and it doesn't require constant physical force and correction to get results! Reliable results! Duh... you never hear of positive, reward-based training making a dog aggressive. It is the easiest, most enjoyable and safest method of training any animal.

In 8 weeks of consistent clicker/treat-based training you CAN get a happy, obedient, reliable dog off-leash. Both of my dogs achieved that in less than 8 weeks as puppies. It might not produce the same instant results as correcting your dog so much that they shut down, but it also isn't creating any behavioral, internal issues or fearfulness.

"Dog training" and "dog supression" are not the same thing. Dogs are not furry people, just like people are not hairless dogs. Attempting to communicate with dogs as if you're a dog based on a bogus alpha/pack theory that emphasizes destroying the will of your dog is barely even humane. The question is, why do people continue to use harsh punishments and corrections in dog training when they don't need to? I guess it feeds some sick urge inside of them to dominate poor defenseless animals. :mad:
 

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Jealousy doesn't become people. Most people want their dog trained. If a trainer can have a dog working 100% off leash in 8 weeks, I think that's saying something. I went the food / clicker route and I came to the realization that it can be taught by anybody. Trainers like Cesar "Dog Whisperer" Milan are the real dog trainers. People that disagree don't know anything about dogs. Sorry to burst your bubble, but they are not furry people.
I have a word of advice: "You stop telling lies about other people and they will stop telling the truth about you."
Milan actually says he is NOT a DOG TRAINER. LOL. (and generally on tis forum he is NOT repected) And nope my dog isn't furry people. However she is my companion, my dog sport partner and a successful film dog. I never have to stoop to corporal punishement to gain her cooperation.
And you might be surprised but there are members on this forum that are more 'decorated' than the OP, and have more experience and success in dog training than she does.

Its not jealousy, this is amusement. As has been posted in this thread that successful trainers don't need to advertise on a random forum to get business. If you are any good, people will come. Your defensiveness is funny :rofl1:.

Oh just what 'obedience' hall of fame are you talking about? How many otchs do her (your) dogs have? What obedience titles? What agility titles, what working credits? How about students, do they have any titles? Training a dog to be a good pet is easy, loads of petsmart trainers do that everyday. You want to make a great claim.. so lets see the proof.
 

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I don't know if they are terribly successful. There have been some much better trolls than this.

I am disapoint.
 

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I always think it's hilarious when the OP comes back with new names. Like REALLY... some random person is just going to come upon this site randomly, this thread, and somehow knows the OP. Magic.

Anyways, I been doing it wrong. I refuse to use prongs and chokes on toy sized dogs.
 

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