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Other names for your breed
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Yorkies were already covered
Chow Chows are:
Chows
Puffy Lion Dogs
and a little boy once thought Aesop was a lion..
Ginger is a poodle/chihuahua mix, but her old owner wrote her breed mix as a Poochi once in awhile... we refuse to do so though
Unless in jest.
I don't think there is a formal classification for Grimmy, but we call him a
Generic Brown Dog and a Muppet
Chow Chows are:
Chows
Puffy Lion Dogs
and a little boy once thought Aesop was a lion..
Ginger is a poodle/chihuahua mix, but her old owner wrote her breed mix as a Poochi once in awhile... we refuse to do so though
Unless in jest. I don't think there is a formal classification for Grimmy, but we call him a
Generic Brown Dog and a Muppet
Malinois are also known as the Mechelse Herder, Mechelaar, Chien de Berger Belge, and Belgian Shepherd Dog. If somebody can guess the breed right, I am impressed. Harry has been identified as the correct breed like 3 times in his 5 1/2 years. It's often butchered, too. I hear even dog savvy people calling them "Mal-Annoys." While being an accurate description of the breed, it's not the correct way to pronounce it.
AKC is the only registry that I know of that separates them into different breeds. Everybody else registers them as varieties of one breed. That makes more sense, as the different types produce each other. Harry has several longhaired half-siblings. Every other country in the world, and UKC here in the states, would register those dogs as Tervuren. It makes everything a paperwork nightmare. Working Terv & Groen breeders would love to tap into the longhairs from some of the Malinois bloodlines, but they can't in this country unless they go UKC only or drop registration altogether. There is even something with importing dogs that are registered elsewhere. I've heard that they have to be a certain number of generations of one variety before AKC will accept them.
AKC is the only registry that I know of that separates them into different breeds. Everybody else registers them as varieties of one breed. That makes more sense, as the different types produce each other. Harry has several longhaired half-siblings. Every other country in the world, and UKC here in the states, would register those dogs as Tervuren. It makes everything a paperwork nightmare. Working Terv & Groen breeders would love to tap into the longhairs from some of the Malinois bloodlines, but they can't in this country unless they go UKC only or drop registration altogether. There is even something with importing dogs that are registered elsewhere. I've heard that they have to be a certain number of generations of one variety before AKC will accept them.
From what I gathered, they started out as one breed registered as Belgian Sheepdog. Politics and snobbery within the club got the standard changed to fit the black dogs only. That is why the Groenendaels are called Belgian Sheepdogs in AKC. The Tervuren and Malinois people got their own clubs later, and were recognized as separate breeds. The fourth Belgian, the Laekenois, is enrolled in
AKC's FSS service but their numbers are still low. Perhaps someday all four will be recognized by AKC.
Going back to all one breed is very controversial. One thing that sucks is that if they did, only one would represent the breed in group. I guess AKC doesn't allow separate varieties in group anymore. Hardly seems fair that American Cockers still get to be represented by color, and the Belgians couldn't have their varieties. If it weren't for that, I think that getting the breed clubs to recombine would be easier.
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Yep ... and from breed history I understand they were once called Roseneath Terriers, Poltalloch Terriers, and at earlier time White Cairn Terriers.
I've heard that "Christmas dog" thing too, don't quite get how that started. Right there with ya on "Terror" though!! We call ours a "Westie Terrier-ist" because he's a regular evil genius ... and he's so freakin' HAPPY about it. :yikes:
I'm with Mom2dogs on that one too, LOL, ... I'd rebel against that. When we first got Riley we had a few people say "Oooohh a male Westie? You just gotta name him Cesar!!" Ummm ... nah, not gonna happen.
I've heard that "Christmas dog" thing too, don't quite get how that started. Right there with ya on "Terror" though!! We call ours a "Westie Terrier-ist" because he's a regular evil genius ... and he's so freakin' HAPPY about it. :yikes:
I'm with Mom2dogs on that one too, LOL, ... I'd rebel against that. When we first got Riley we had a few people say "Oooohh a male Westie? You just gotta name him Cesar!!" Ummm ... nah, not gonna happen.
That's very interesting!
Really doesn't make much sense to keep them split up like that. Rough and Smooth Collies are considered two varieties of the same breed (In North America). They are interbred, but they do not show against each other (expect for at specialties when BOV rough and BOV smooth compete for BOB) Each dogs AKC registration lists them as a "Collie" not Rough Collie or Smooth Collie.
Now in most European countries Rough and Smooths are considered two separate breeds and most FCI countries do not allow them to be interbred, but this change in Europe only occurred around the mid 1990's. Before that they were still considered two varieties of the same breed.
Really doesn't make much sense to keep them split up like that. Rough and Smooth Collies are considered two varieties of the same breed (In North America). They are interbred, but they do not show against each other (expect for at specialties when BOV rough and BOV smooth compete for BOB) Each dogs AKC registration lists them as a "Collie" not Rough Collie or Smooth Collie.
Now in most European countries Rough and Smooths are considered two separate breeds and most FCI countries do not allow them to be interbred, but this change in Europe only occurred around the mid 1990's. Before that they were still considered two varieties of the same breed.
