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I'm not sure where to put this, so I'll put it in General Dog Chat. Mods, feel free to move it if its not placed in the right section :)

What do you guys think of this breeder? Calypso English Cocker Spaniels

Their puppies are very very cute... I'm not planning on getting a puppy from them, but I like English Cockers and may want to own one in the future, so that is how I found them... It was all very innocent! :D
 
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they test, they show and their dogs are stunning...there members in good standig with the breed club, agility trials ect all wonderfull. (i live to see english cockers work!)

but they also have A fairly large number of dogs ...
 
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Foxy yeah, the large number of dogs caught my eye too. Also, I couldn't find a puppy contract.
 
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Do they co-own the dogs or do they all live at the house? (I didn't go look at the page, my computer is hating me currently) It's usually co-owning that makes good breeders seem like they have a lot of dogs.
 
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It says on their page: The boys/girls below either currently live with us, lived with us at some point, or were bred by us.
 
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MericoX said:
It says on their page: The boys/girls below either currently live with us, lived with us at some point, or were bred by us.
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So it doesn't necessarily mean they owned them all, nor all at the same time. I don't know, can't click the link at the moment lol
 
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They do co-own. There's a question for that on their puppy questionaire, "Do you intend to breed this English Cocker? If so, are you willing to co-own?"
 
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My focus was the american cockers, but I have heard of them! And it was good things... but I don't know them personally or anything. But, by word of mouth it was positive :)
 
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Something I noticed is they had 3 litters in 2006 and 4 in 2008. That doesn't bother me that much, as long as they were taken care of and not a bunch of 'oops litters'. But just thought I'd throw that out to make sure you had noticed.

Something else I noticed on the dogs they have bred is not all of them have a CH or titles. Which could mean nothing except what they do with them doesn't give out titles (I know it doesn't with my breed), but it could also mean something.
 
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A couple things to think about with what Lizmo said is considering they co-own and have that many litters could mean those litters were just kind of 'overseen'. They may have bred the bitch but don't own her, for example. It happens some.

As far as not titling every dog, that's fine with me. In some breeds it's hard to title dogs in conformation. Some dogs may have a minor cosmetic flaw or something that makes it hard to show them but doesn't really affect their quality. I personally (other people may disagree) don't have a problem getting a dog from a litter where one or maybe both of the parents isn't titled. The bigger question for me is to ask why breed these two dogs. If they have a good reason then it should be pretty obvious. Both of Summer's parents are finished but Mia's mom isn't finished.

Not saying that's their reasoning, but it's a possibility.
 
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Laurelin said:
A couple things to think about with what Lizmo said is considering they co-own and have that many litters could mean those litters were just kind of 'overseen'. They may have bred the bitch but don't own her, for example. It happens some.

As far as not titling every dog, that's fine with me. In some breeds it's hard to title dogs in conformation. Some dogs may have a minor cosmetic flaw or something that makes it hard to show them but doesn't really affect their quality. I personally (other people may disagree) don't have a problem getting a dog from a litter where one or maybe both of the parents isn't titled. The bigger question for me is to ask why breed these two dogs. If they have a good reason then it should be pretty obvious. Both of Summer's parents are finished but Mia's mom isn't finished.

Not saying that's their reasoning, but it's a possibility.
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Maybe I should clarify. When I say titling, I do NOT mean showing. Usually when I mean showing I say 'CH' but when talking about other things (agility, flyball, obedience, tracking, etc) I say 'titles'. But some venues don't even have titles, so sometimes that doesn't apply (like sheep or cattle dog trials).

You of all people should know that a conformation title doesn't mean much to me. :)
 
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