Bloody h*ll, had a accidental
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It has always been my intention to breed her to him, as long as everything was in place and ok etc.
You ALWAYS here of accidental breedings from other breeders, the more you show and have a network of breeders the more you here of it. And I am not talking about byb's here on any level, people that invest a ton into their dogs by proving them and doing all the health clearances etc.
In the last 24 hrs, I have been told about 3!! One breeder told me directly of the litter they have on the ground at this time.
I went to lunch today with a friend, she told me about her friend (someone I have met and know by rep mainly) has 2 at this time, first time that has happened in over 20 yrs as a breeder, btw their a vet as well.
It's a hard line to walk, if you breed a lot (even when showing and testing) and have a lovely set up where the dogs are kenneled, folks (myself included) don't like the fact that the dogs are not living in the house etc.
On the other hand, if you have a couple of girls and a stud dog, prove the dogs, do the testing, don't have kennels but live with your dogs your are certainly raising the risk level of having an accidental breeding..............especially when you don't breed very often. Would be pretty easy on the stud dog and eveyone else if you bred each bitch every other time and had them rotate......but I don't breed much. I breed for myself first and foremost, I don't move on older and retired dogs to make room for a 'new' dog. I try very hard not to add to the dog over population problem. I try to keep my number of dogs to a reasonable level of 5-6 dogs.......doesn't leave me much room to play with when I want to preserve my lines and what they have to offer to my breed.
Who knows, I too have heard of the amazing dog/s that were the product of an accidental breeding.
Sh*t happens its not the end of the world, as least not yet
You ALWAYS here of accidental breedings from other breeders, the more you show and have a network of breeders the more you here of it. And I am not talking about byb's here on any level, people that invest a ton into their dogs by proving them and doing all the health clearances etc.
In the last 24 hrs, I have been told about 3!! One breeder told me directly of the litter they have on the ground at this time.
I went to lunch today with a friend, she told me about her friend (someone I have met and know by rep mainly) has 2 at this time, first time that has happened in over 20 yrs as a breeder, btw their a vet as well.
It's a hard line to walk, if you breed a lot (even when showing and testing) and have a lovely set up where the dogs are kenneled, folks (myself included) don't like the fact that the dogs are not living in the house etc.
On the other hand, if you have a couple of girls and a stud dog, prove the dogs, do the testing, don't have kennels but live with your dogs your are certainly raising the risk level of having an accidental breeding..............especially when you don't breed very often. Would be pretty easy on the stud dog and eveyone else if you bred each bitch every other time and had them rotate......but I don't breed much. I breed for myself first and foremost, I don't move on older and retired dogs to make room for a 'new' dog. I try very hard not to add to the dog over population problem. I try to keep my number of dogs to a reasonable level of 5-6 dogs.......doesn't leave me much room to play with when I want to preserve my lines and what they have to offer to my breed.
Who knows, I too have heard of the amazing dog/s that were the product of an accidental breeding.
Sh*t happens its not the end of the world, as least not yet
Hoping everything turns out alright.
And well, come to think of it, I know a lot of decent humans who were the result of an accidental breeding.
My mom just hates it when I bring it up.
And well, come to think of it, I know a lot of decent humans who were the result of an accidental breeding.
My mom just hates it when I bring it up.
:rofl1: I can just picture her face if you called it an accidental breeding.
you could get a lot of mileage out of that one...........
Nothing better than giving someone the gears in fun.
You know its physically impossible for people to watch 24/7. Heck you might have to go to the bathroom LOL! Sleep is important too. I suppose you could hire people.. but that would cost sooo much money that pups would be ridiculously expensive.
Personally I don't think I would put my dog at risk (I personally know of a dog who died due to a c section) because the timing is bad. I can see if it was parents who should not be bred, but not cause the timing is off, the bitch's life (at least in my opinion) is more important that that.
Personally I don't think I would put my dog at risk (I personally know of a dog who died due to a c section) because the timing is bad. I can see if it was parents who should not be bred, but not cause the timing is off, the bitch's life (at least in my opinion) is more important that that.
I hope its doesn't take, but if it does, I hope they turn out good. There ARE many awesome dogs from accidental breedings, often breedings that would have taken place anyway . . . just not right then. So, I join the others with don't beat yourself up, and don't risk your bitch terminating the litter if it was one you were thinking of doing anyway . . . you never know what you might be missing.
I guess at risk of being flamed I will share my oops...... My Father In Law and Uncle live in a duplex type set up with us, and they had fallen in love with a Chi mix we had rescued. Rosie was sweet but had issues and had been very abused. We did not have her spayed and looking back that was a poor choice, at the time we felt she had been through so much and became so traumatized every time we took her to the vet that we did not want to put her through it, we had no plans (of course) to breed her and no intact males living with her.
Well..... I had put Zorro out in our fenced yard, and was doing housework. I had no idea Rosie was in heat and my FIL had missed the early clues, she must have kept herself VERY clean and the only other dog in their home was a spayed beagle. I went to call Zorro in and much to my shock they had let Rosie out for a Pee and she scaled my fence ( Now this is a 8 lb or so Chi who scaled a 5 1/2 foot fence:yikes to get in with Zorro and they were tied in the yard!!! I was horrified and likely should have done an immediate spay/abort but honestly I chose to hope it had not taken. It had.....
The rest of the story was heartbreaking to say the least, when the pups were very young, less than two weeks if my crappy memory serves me correctly, Rosie went out for a pee and took off like a shot, they called and called and yelled to me for help. Rosie had spotted a coyote in the barn behind the house, gone after it and was killed. It was the saddest thing I have ever dealt with.
Lynn took a couple of pups to see if she could help and if her bitch would foster the pups even though her last litter was over a year(?) ago. Well, Hailey saved those pups imo!! She not only cared for them (brought the rest to her as well) but actually produced milk!!!!!
The whole experience was a hell of a learning experience and I am so thankful to Lynn and Hailey for saving those pups.
Compared to that disaster of and Accidental Breeding, Lynns Opps is not so bad. I hesitate to even share the story because I know in my heart Rosie hould have been spayed, I just never dreamed in a million years she'd scale a fence to get in with Zorro!!!
Well..... I had put Zorro out in our fenced yard, and was doing housework. I had no idea Rosie was in heat and my FIL had missed the early clues, she must have kept herself VERY clean and the only other dog in their home was a spayed beagle. I went to call Zorro in and much to my shock they had let Rosie out for a Pee and she scaled my fence ( Now this is a 8 lb or so Chi who scaled a 5 1/2 foot fence:yikes
to get in with Zorro and they were tied in the yard!!! I was horrified and likely should have done an immediate spay/abort but honestly I chose to hope it had not taken. It had.....The rest of the story was heartbreaking to say the least, when the pups were very young, less than two weeks if my crappy memory serves me correctly, Rosie went out for a pee and took off like a shot, they called and called and yelled to me for help. Rosie had spotted a coyote in the barn behind the house, gone after it and was killed. It was the saddest thing I have ever dealt with.
Lynn took a couple of pups to see if she could help and if her bitch would foster the pups even though her last litter was over a year(?) ago. Well, Hailey saved those pups imo!! She not only cared for them (brought the rest to her as well) but actually produced milk!!!!!
The whole experience was a hell of a learning experience and I am so thankful to Lynn and Hailey for saving those pups.
Compared to that disaster of and Accidental Breeding, Lynns Opps is not so bad. I hesitate to even share the story because I know in my heart Rosie hould have been spayed, I just never dreamed in a million years she'd scale a fence to get in with Zorro!!!
Laura thanks.
Oh poor Rosie, still miss her and she wasn't even mine. I remember very clearly the day she decided that I was her one of her few friends and someone outside of her family to be her friend.
I also very clearly remember that day when you called all upset about the breeding, I laughed and said of course the breeding would take because it was the one that you didn't want.
And I remember how that poor little dog which had been so terribly abused and showed it even years later (except with her family ) how proud she was and how much she loved those pups. I truely believe that was the happiest time of Rosie's life.
Just as I was so proud of Hailey for adopting her grandbabies, she nursed them and raised them like they were her own. It had been 2 yrs since her first litter. It took Hailey two weeks to reach full lactation but her and I worked very hard at feeding them and they thrived.
Those pups as you know, were placed with iron clad s/n contracts, we found them awesome forever homes as cross bred jrts.
One's owner is a Prof at Yale and we always joke that we have a dog that teaches at Yale. (she can go everywhere at Yale with her owner but the caf and library.)
Here is a pic of them while being raised by Hailey.
Oh poor Rosie, still miss her and she wasn't even mine. I remember very clearly the day she decided that I was her one of her few friends and someone outside of her family to be her friend.
I also very clearly remember that day when you called all upset about the breeding, I laughed and said of course the breeding would take because it was the one that you didn't want.
And I remember how that poor little dog which had been so terribly abused and showed it even years later (except with her family ) how proud she was and how much she loved those pups. I truely believe that was the happiest time of Rosie's life.
Just as I was so proud of Hailey for adopting her grandbabies, she nursed them and raised them like they were her own. It had been 2 yrs since her first litter. It took Hailey two weeks to reach full lactation but her and I worked very hard at feeding them and they thrived.
Those pups as you know, were placed with iron clad s/n contracts, we found them awesome forever homes as cross bred jrts.
One's owner is a Prof at Yale and we always joke that we have a dog that teaches at Yale. (she can go everywhere at Yale with her owner but the caf and library.)
Here is a pic of them while being raised by Hailey.
