Infuriated over "pet modification"

~still Mafia Princess stealing Dekka's name~

I've been a member since I was 16 (25 now). Shannon has written articles in past when this has come up.. as it has come up on dog forums long before this thread. I couldn't find the one I was looking for though. It talked to a few of the people who had modded their pets and had pictures in that gallery. Got their viewpoint on why they did what they did.. not promoting it.

I'm definitely not pro modding animals. I have no issue with BME documenting it though. Doesn't really change what people will and won't do.

the pirates tat on the one dogs belly IS fake, those temps are sold everywhere...
its also very obvious from the actual "quality" of the artwork, you can tell tattoo ink from temp tats.

personally i wouldnt go peicing my dogs ears ect, but if they had a hole, for the occasional picture ect id have no problem with some jewelry for hahas...
as for tattooing...
do i agree with huge bug colorfull peices that qill be completly hidden unless your perminently shave the area? NO.
do i agree with anethitizing an animal for a large unnessicary tattoo?! no.
BUT is it realy so different as tattooing ID #'s

i knew one girl who has a staffy bull, they tattooed all their dogs becuase they didnt feel chips were safe (this was a good few years back before chips were all the rage) and in some ways i agree becuase with the right equiptment can clear the data from a chip and reprogram it. and the mother of this dog had been stolen right out of her fathers car when he stopped to get gas (he was gone no more then 3 seconds)

her mother is a tattoo artist, she also did the ID tattooing (with a different gun) for the local vet and horse farms, and the family is norse pagan, and instead of tattooing numbers, they tattooed all the puppies with a different Rune, they were done very artisitcally on the inside of the thigh, but didnt take much longer than a typical ID number tat would. only about 1" tall.

About 6 months later her dog was stolen from their house during a break in. 2 weeks later she swore she saw him at the park with some guy and when she whent over knew it was her dog.
a simple check on the thigh showed her mothers artwork and she imediatly called the police when he refused to not only give the dog back but swore it was his and hed had the dog for years.
she showed the officer a picture of the dog, and then a picture of the dog WITH the tattoo and the officer arrested the guy on the spot for theft, breakign and entering and a long list of others.

woudl i do it for the sake of having my dog tattooed as some fashion statment?! hell now...but if i was going to be id tatting any animals, id probbaly go with a real artist and get something a little more unique than a series of numbers...

Well, I found the interview with the guy who pierced his fish.
http://www.bmezine.com/news/pubring/20040201.html

i do see where the fish guy is comming from in terms of anglers constantly peicgin fish's lips lol...ive been fishing...and ive seen wild fish with the remains of a run in with a snapped line and there large and healthy so...least on that term.

Wow, I have honestly never heard of people doing that to their pets. I was raised on a farm and we do brand and ear tag cattle (legally here in Canada you have to ear tag them to track them for BSE and other disease tracking purposes), but it's certainly not for aesthetics. I know many calves who have ripped out ear tags and I would definitely be scared my dog would rip out a piercing. I really don't think I could put my dog through getting pierced or tatoo'd for a fashion statement. My horse is micro-chipped, and I am thinking about getting Lucy a micro-chip too but I find that entirely different.

Gosh, that's just terrible for people to tattoo or pierce their pets for fashion statements! Gimme a break! It doesn't help the pet in any way, it's just the owner being a self-centered idiot. It's not at all the same as neutering, spaying, microchipping or tattooing for identification purposes.

But then I am pretty conservative on surgical modifications of any kind. I don't agree with declawing cats (it cuts their fingers off at the first knuckle!), and also do not agree with cropping ears on Dobermans or Miniature Schnauzers kept only as pets. I realize not everyone agrees with those positions.

You can get things other than numbers from the vet too My friend's dog is named Coors and she got a beer can LOL When Lucy gets spayed my vets offered to tatoo her too, I am still thinking about it but if I get it done I will probably get something other than just numbers.

WOW! The one that struck me most is the pierced FISH!

Fish are so fragile anyway........and to put them through something like that seems CRAZY!

I can't see the fish interview? I guess fish count as swimwear, lingerie, and nudity....


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Published: June, 2006

I, too, think the pirate tattoo is fake. It is too picture perfect.

No more comments from me ..... I think over piercing and tattoos are self ego mutilation .... doing it to animals is ridicules !

~Mafia the name stealer~

I'm glad you think a large portion of the member base of this board is into self ego mutilation. Some of the members even make their livings from 'self ego mutilation' as you so kindly put it. I don't see what we do to our body's is any business of yours. No one is asking you to do anything to your body. I agree doing it to animals is ridiculous. But the two are not linked issues.

As a fashion statement I do not agree with Tat's however did you know at least here in Ontario that getting your dog an ID tatoo could keep him/her out of a research facility. Here it is illegal for research facilities to buy dogs with I.D's. Many dogs who are stolen are sold to research facilities, but if your dog has an I.D tattoo, at least here, it will make him less valuable to potential thieves.

OK DEk ...one more comment , yes it's none of my business , just my personal opinion ,

~real Dekka here~

I hope you realize that "I" was not the one who made that comment. (tho I do have pierced ears and plan on a small tasteful tattoo of my dog one day-done by another chazzer)

Personal opinions are fine but was it necessary to be so negative and hurtful to people? Saying you don't find it attractive is one thing but to say its self ego mutilation is quite nasty. I have noticed you jump in on every thread that is about "self ego mutilation". Even I know your 'opinion' on this. To the point that when I get my Dekka Tattoo from BCMoffat I am not sure if I want to share it on this forum as I am sure you will jump in and say its "self ego mutilation".

To me tatts can be art (for HUMANS lol) I can respect people might not all like the same artforms. I am not a fan of Vincent VanGogh but I can recognise his talent and not insult those who do like his work and style.

unbelievable and totally rediculous.

I'm totally with both Dekkas on this one. Any time a tattoo thread of any sort comes up there is always a post about it being mutilation. I know not everybody on this board has to get along or agree, but I personally would expect a bit more decorum and tact from a moderator. Calling someone's body art mutilation every single time the subject comes up is hurtful and offensive.


Oh and real Dekka? You BETTER share your Dekka tattoo with me!

Agreed

I haven't read the entire thread yet, but I am going to disagree with this, as an avid worker of JRT's (yes, we hunt them underground) docking is done with purpose in our case. I would seriously consider whether I would hunt a dog if it's tail wasn't docked, there's a greatly increased chance of injury if the dog turns around in close quarters underground. I for one wouldn't want a badger or groundhog clamped onto the tail of a JRT that I was working underground!!

A person who willingly choses to get a tatoo or piercing is entirely different than a person getting their pet one, IMO. I have no problems at all with piercings or tatoos for humans, they can chose to have that done to themselves. Would I get a tatoo? Nope, I don't want one. I know I'd chose something idiotic and hate it later LOL But I have lots of friends with tatoos and I do really like some of them. And the ones I don't care for, well it doesn't affect me and if they like them than that's great for them!!

I do have several piercings, and I also have friends with piercings that I would never, ever get in a million years. But they like them, so that's great for them!

Again, entirely different than getting your dog pierced or tatoo'd for a fashion statement. That is ridiculous I will agree.