Dog Site - Dog Stuff
Dog Forum | Dog Pictures

Go Back   Chazhound Dog Forum > Dog Discussions and Dog Talk Forums > Dogs - General Dog Chat


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 08-19-2013, 10:49 AM
Linds's Avatar
Linds Linds is offline
Twin 2
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Illinois
Posts: 6,735
Default Greyhound Puppy Possibility-Pros/Cons

Ok people, I need help making a decision. This is not a "Just tell me to get the puppy because puppy thread" this is a "Please give me realistic opinions"

I've been in contact with a greyhound breeder I really like for awhile now. Hobby breeder, contract I like, against early altering (and ok with not altering/alternative altering), has AKC registerable dogs but also does stuff with her dogs, puppies have gone on (or dogs have come from) OB/Rally titled dogs, great temperaments and pretty much what I was looking for in a greyhound.

She's also breeding her last litter soon (as in as soon as her female comes into heat and is already a little late).

So here it is, I need to decide if I want to add a greyhound puppy now or wait and find another breeder I like with dogs I like and a contract I can stomach.

Pros
  • My initial want of a greyhound stems from really liking having a large, lower key, cuddle dog that can take or leave exercise but still be up for it when I want to go do something. This was to fill Kaylee's shoes but be a better fit for me than Kaylee is. Kaylee is getting close to the end here and I really really miss having her to cuddle with (She is more comfortable on her memory foam bed than in my bed anymore), like, I miss it a real lot.

  • It'll be fun training a greyhound puppy, make me a better trainer and see what we can do together without the pressure of NEEDING to title and prove the dog like I will with a Koolie.

  • It'll be a nice space out from now until I import my next Koolie in about three years.

  • My family is on board. My sister would love to have a dog to do some stuff with that isn't as intense as the Koolie's or as focused on me. She would love an easier going dog to take for a walk that isn't either staring creepily at her or trying to make everything GO FASTER.

  • A puppy is perfect because it would allow me to really train him and TRY to do some disc (greyhound doing disc! Could be so fun!) and help me grow as a trainer.

  • If I get this job (FINGERS CROSSED) at the training place I can bring a dog with me and that's great experience.

  • I'm used to three dogs and like it.

  • It's a greyhound so even though it'll be a puppy the intensity and amount of dog will be less than Didgie or Traveler. More easy going.

  • It would be nice to have a dog to bring with each Koolie. I don't bring Traveler and Didgie together because they do nothing by halves (AKA, I suck at manners) but when a grey is grown it will hopefully be a tad more polite and easier to pair with a Koolie when I go places.

  • It's a puppy. I love puppies.

Cons
  • Winter Puppy

  • Three younger dogs. Didgie will be a couple months shy of 2 years old, Traveler will be a few months shy of 4. That puts a two year spacing between each dog.

  • Another dog to train and work with. Both a pro and a con. More time to dedicate, stretched more thin.

  • They're large, not really a huge con but something to consider.

  • While I've had three dogs for awhile, Kaylee has been sick for awhile and hasn't been going out places and being what an active younger dog would be while having two other active younger dogs.

  • It's a puppy. No matter what he'll be like as an adult he won't be one, he'll be a puppy that needs to be house broken and played with.


Uncertainties
  • I don't know how it will be with three younger dogs. I just don't. Part of me feels I can do it, I love training and working with the dogs. It's never felt like a chore. I am excited by the idea of being able to work with a dog that is going to be more of a challenge, make me work differently.

  • But again, it's three dogs. But I don't want to wait until I would be importing another Koolie and I seriously seriously feel empty when Kaylee can't cuddle with me. It's going to be such a hole when she's gone and I'm dreading it.

Honestly, I think my biggest problem is wondering if I jump in but regret it later.

So, thoughts anyone? Help?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 08-19-2013, 11:12 AM
Julee's Avatar
Julee Julee is offline
Aware
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Kent, CT
Posts: 2,781
Default

I'm going to say go for it.

Last year, I had 4 dogs who were 4 or under, plus Shadow who was 10. Em was 4, Copper 3, Bloo 1.5-2, Deke 10mo-18 mo. It got a little crazy sometimes, but I definitely don't regret it. It really helped me learn to manage my time and grow as a trainer and owner. I was training Deke to be a service dog, working with Em and Bloo on sport stuff, and messing around with training Copper. I, personally, really enjoy the crazy. Absolutely love it. I'm imagining that when I'm an adult, I'll likely get/have dogs 3ish years apart.

If you don't feel you're in the position to commit to it, don't do it. If you want to do it, do it. You can handle it.
__________________
Dogs in Tow - Updated 8/24/14



Equinox Shadow Of A Hero CGC "Shadow"
Equinox Ain't No Rest For The Wicked CGC "Embyr"
Equinox Play Me Some Mountain Music "Copper"
Equinox Don't Feed It After Midnight "Bloo"
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-19-2013, 11:16 AM
Laurelin's Avatar
Laurelin Laurelin is offline
I'm All Ears
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 29,306
Default

I think it will just depend on what you want. I'm sure you would be able to give the pup what it needs.

For me... I don't want my dogs spaced closely in age. I want 5-6 years between ideally. It is very fun while they are young but once they get older it can be rough. We've had multiple seniors needing medication before. Right now even though our two 9 year olds and 8 year old are healthy, they've slowed down quite a bit. I also know I don't want more than three dogs ever so having three close in age would mean no more dogs for me for a long time. And if you want to compete you're looking at foundations on a lot of dogs at the same time. A friend of mine has three dogs three and under and it's rough. I'd prefer to really have one young dog to work on and then have one or two others that are easy. An hopefully spacing dogs out enough you can always have a very active competing dog. Of course you never really know.

There is also the problem that I you really don't think you will have this opportunity again then that is something to consider.

Dunno really but just my thoughts. Idk how Traveler is already 4 but then again Mia is 4... How the heck does that happen.
__________________
Mia CGC - (5 year old papillon)
Summer TG3 TBAD - (10 year old papillon)

Last edited by Laurelin; 08-19-2013 at 12:05 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-19-2013, 11:34 AM
HayleyMarie's Avatar
HayleyMarie HayleyMarie is offline
Like a bat outa' hell
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Beautiful British Columbia!!
Posts: 6,873
Default

Linds I say go for it. I am thinking you might regret it if you don't go for it, especially once Kaylee is gone and there is a hole that needs to be filled. Not that you will be replacing her, but sometimes heartache is stilled by a puppy. And I feel that you are the kind of person that can take on another puppy and it seems you want to take on the challenge and are ready to do so.

You are used to the three dog dynamic so you would be able to easily adjust. Plus, hello Grey puppy. To cuddle. Although, Winter puppy does kinnda suck. It is not that bad. I did winter puppy with Mitsu and it was not the end of the world. Just get puppy a fully body winter jacket lol.

I should add you have more pro's than con's which is pretty much proof that you need said grey puppy.
__________________


Teagan Westhighland White Terrier
Panzer South African Boerboel Mastiff
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-19-2013, 11:52 AM
JessLough JessLough is offline
Love My Mutt <3
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 13,162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Laurelin View Post
I think it will just depend on what you want. I'm sure you would be able to give the pup what it needs.

For me... I don't want my dogs spaced closely in age. I want 5-6 years between ideally. It is very fun while they are young but once they get older it can be rough. Weve had multiple seniors needing medication before. Right now wven though our two 9 year olds and 8 year old are healthy, theyve slowed down quite a bit. I also know I don't want more than three dogs ever so having three close in age would mean no more dogs for me for a long time. And if you want to compete you're looking at foundations on a lot of dogs at the same time. A friend of mine has three dogs three and under and it's rough. I'd prefer to really have one young dog to work on and then have one or two others that are easy. An hopefully spacing dogs out enough you can always have a very active competing dog. Of course you never really know.

There is also the problem that I you really don't think you will have this opportunity again then that is something to consider.

Dunno really but just my thoughts. Idk how Traveler is already 4 but then again Mia is 4... How the eck does that happen.
Pretty much this.

Not even thinking now... but I think it's definitely worth it to think about in the future. The three of them will be getting old together, really. I had 3 senior pets at a time. I lost 1 of them, 2 of them probably won't see the end of the year, and I lost a not-quite-senior due to a freak accident. It sucks. Majorly. Not only does the heartbreak suck, but any cushion I had, is gone, due to caring for them. Obviously, that part is whatever, but it's something.

So yah, it's definitely something to keep in mind. And I know that **** happens, and it's not a guarentee just having them close(ish) in age, but best case scenario, they'd all be getting to where they're considered old together.

But, if you keep that in mind, and are prepared to deal with it, then I think you've already made up your mind that you really would like one. Sure, the timing may not be *perfect* but, well, it's never really going to be perfect. There will always be something. Especially since this is really your last chance getting a pup from this breeder, that you like so much.
__________________
Ella: 3 year old female ferret
Nacho: ~8 year old male ferret

Goodbye, Rosey. You were the best girl I could have asked for. 10/15/96-03/08/13
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-19-2013, 12:06 PM
meepitsmeagan's Avatar
meepitsmeagan meepitsmeagan is offline
Meagan&TheCattleDogCrew
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Southwest Michigan
Posts: 2,509
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by HayleyMarie View Post
Linds I say go for it. I am thinking you might regret it if you don't go for it, especially once Kaylee is gone and there is a hole that needs to be filled. Not that you will be replacing her, but sometimes heartache is stilled by a puppy. And I feel that you are the kind of person that can take on another puppy and it seems you want to take on the challenge and are ready to do so.

You are used to the three dog dynamic so you would be able to easily adjust. Plus, hello Grey puppy. To cuddle. Although, Winter puppy does kinnda suck. It is not that bad. I did winter puppy with Mitsu and it was not the end of the world. Just get puppy a fully body winter jacket lol.

I should add you have more pro's than con's which is pretty much proof that you need said grey puppy.
^This. I think you should go with it. It can be very difficult to find a breeder that fits all the needs and you said it yourself that she produces great dogs.
__________________


Harlow 2010 Boxer :: Rider 2012 ACDx :: Tulsa 2014 ACD

http://trailingcattle.blogspot.com/
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-19-2013, 12:18 PM
Shai's Avatar
Shai Shai is offline
& the Muttly Crew
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,040
Default

I don't really have a do it/don't do it stance, but just some things to consider:

-- Finding living arrangements gets a lot harder when you jump from two to three, especially if one or more are big dogs (though for many housing folks, the Koolies would count as big anyway).

-- Having three young dogs is fun. Having three middle-ish dogs is fun but worrisome. Having three old dogs...well I'm not there yet but you've witnessed my puppy dilemmas over the last year, mostly due to that very issue. And with the grey hound as the youngest of your three with the lowest life expectancy, you've looking at a really rough couple of years down the line.

-- Limiting future dog choices. Greypuppy may be a less needy low key dude but he still will take time, food, vetting, etc. Any dog is a big resource committment, even a healthy chill one that doesn't compete. Change one or more of those factors to the other type, and that cost skyrockets.


That said it's a great opportunity and I'm sure you'll enjoy it if you proceed. And it should be said I've had the weekend from hell so am probably prone to focusing on the possible downsides than usual.
__________________

ARCHX U-CD Kim MX MXJ NF CL3-SF RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Golden Ditzhund, b. ~Mar'07
MACH ARCHX U-CD Webster MXB MJB RL3/2X/1X-COE CGC -- Flying Houdini, b. ~Jun'07
Mira CD JH MX MXB MXJ MJB CGC WCX -- Princess Cheeseface, b. Jul'09
Lodin -- Crazy Monkeybean, b. Dec'13
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 08-19-2013, 12:28 PM
joce's Avatar
joce joce is offline
Top Dog
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ohio
Posts: 4,163
Default

With loosing two dogs in the same year and a third being fourteen I will not have that many young dogs at the same time again. I figure two more years and we will add a dobe again. Blitz will be sixish.

Of course when I was getting all my dogs fourteen or so years ago no one could have told me not to!! I loved them all, its just been a tough couple of years
__________________


If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain
dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few
persons -James Thurber
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 08-19-2013, 12:42 PM
sassafras's Avatar
sassafras sassafras is offline
such sights to show you
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 5,659
Default

I'm not saying what you should or shouldn't do, but if it were me I'd snap up a puppy from this breeder. None of the cons are insurmountable obstacles for a dog owner like you, IMO. And the winter puppy thing isn't really all that bad, or at least it's not as bad as it seems like it would be.
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 08-19-2013, 12:54 PM
AdrianneIsabel's Avatar
AdrianneIsabel AdrianneIsabel is offline
Glutton for Crazy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 8,893
Default

It's pretty close in age, IMO, but you have a strong support system and if the job pans out taking pups to work makes a huge difference.

I don't mind my dogs being old together, I am off set that I actually prefer it. It hurts me to know Shamoo is alone now when we go do things with the youngin, she was never loose with him but being near Arnold seemed to comfort me.

It's middle age that can be tough, two dogs trialing is fine but three for one handler? That's a lot to ask by way of training, timing, & costs.

I do like this younger dog raising a pup, Shamoo can't do anything for Phelan when it comes to teaching boundaries and tiring him with good fun but Sloan is a champion at this.

In the end follow your gut, you'll hit a point you question your choice once in a while but in the end I'm sure you'll love the dog no matter what.
__________________
Sloan von Krigbaum IPO1 CGC BH CD NA NJ PD MJ-N RATI RATN 3/7/10 -
Shamoo NJ-N RATI RATN 3/1/98 -
Phelan du Loups du Soleil CGC RATI 6/15/13 -
Chili Brigades Brover 5/23/14 -

Arnold CGC TDI FD 6/29/04 - 07/05/13
Backup CGC HIC CD SRD SJ-N RATI 12/29/09 - 07/05/13

You were amazing, we did amazing things.


Harmony Canine, relationship based training.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:49 AM.


1997-2013 Chazhound Dog Site