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Old 05-05-2013, 11:24 AM
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You may also consider a calming cap and going through the motions but clipping the air in front of the toe and rewarding before going for gold.
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:28 AM
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You may also consider a calming cap and going through the motions but clipping the air in front of the toe and rewarding before going for gold.
What's a calming cap??

I started off by clicking for paw, clicking for me holding a toe, clicking for clipper near foot, clipper touching nail, then a massive bounty for a snip.

Maybe I'm too impatient. I know its not impossible. It could all be over in 5 mins if it went well!
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:36 AM
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When I clip nails, I hold the dog in my lap on his back, feet in the air. That way I can restrain him and clip nails at the same time. OF course I condition them to be comfortable in that position - and to stay in that position until being released - before ever starting nails, but it usually doesn't take very many sessions.

One thing we have to keep in mind is that whenever the dog successfully pulls away while we're trying to do nails, he's MAJORLY reinforced himself by avoiding the nail clipping. So in addition to reinforcing him for being still and allowing you to clip his nails, we have to be sure to NOT let him reinforce himself by pulling away.
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:49 AM
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When I clip nails, I hold the dog in my lap on his back, feet in the air. That way I can restrain him and clip nails at the same time. OF course I condition them to be comfortable in that position - and to stay in that position until being released - before ever starting nails, but it usually doesn't take very many sessions.

One thing we have to keep in mind is that whenever the dog successfully pulls away while we're trying to do nails, he's MAJORLY reinforced himself by avoiding the nail clipping. So in addition to reinforcing him for being still and allowing you to clip his nails, we have to be sure to NOT let him reinforce himself by pulling away.
All of that!

I also have had luck with backing the dog into a corner and then holding their feet folded back (like a farrier does) instead of pulling the leg forward - gives me a great view of the nail bed and seems more comfortable for the dog.

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Old 05-05-2013, 12:53 PM
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Rumor used to lay on her side and let me dremel, until one day she just decided she didn't want to do that anymore. I have a grooming table but it's a pain to set up every time I want to do nails. Rather than force her to lay down when she doesn't want to, we've modified so that she now just backs into a corner and sits while I do fronts. When we transition to rears she sits on my arm. She's slightly too heavy for me to be able to support her like that, but I try to humor her, lol.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:15 PM
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All of that!

I also have had luck with backing the dog into a corner and then holding their feet folded back (like a farrier does) instead of pulling the leg forward - gives me a great view of the nail bed and seems more comfortable for the dog.

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^that is how we do it at work. Except most of them are done on the grooming table. Restrained and sometimes with another person holding them.

If we get dogs that are too bad we refer them to the vet to have it done.
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When I clip nails, I hold the dog in my lap on his back, feet in the air. That way I can restrain him and clip nails at the same time. OF course I condition them to be comfortable in that position - and to stay in that position until being released - before ever starting nails, but it usually doesn't take very many sessions.

One thing we have to keep in mind is that whenever the dog successfully pulls away while we're trying to do nails, he's MAJORLY reinforced himself by avoiding the nail clipping. So in addition to reinforcing him for being still and allowing you to clip his nails, we have to be sure to NOT let him reinforce himself by pulling away.

This. And I may or may not have beaned Rage in the head with the handle of the clippers before & told her to stop being a jackass. Usually they just lay there & accept it - nails are not optional here. Not even for Daisy, queen of the world. It used to take going to the vet & having 4 of us hold Daisy down & 1 to clip. Now I can roll her onto her back between my legs on the floor & dremel them all.
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Old 05-05-2013, 01:59 PM
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I pick my nail battles Riley doesn't like being restrained and NEVER lets himself be placed on his back. He panics completely - which I learned during a 'tricks' class when he was a puppy. One of the tricks was a simple roll over, using clicks/treats, so nails weren't even involved. He never did learn to roll over...

Anyway, the best time for me to clip his nails is when he's relaxed and snoozing (in his bed, early morning, or on the couch in the evening). He makes half-hearted attempts to pull his foot away but ultimately lets me get a couple of paws done, because he's not really awake. I don't push getting them all done at one go, and even just getting a couple of nails clipped, then taking a break, and coming back to it, is what works for us.
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I don't push Tucker, I'd rather not be bit or have him become defensive about having his feet touched in other situations (like when I had to get a tick out of his toes last summer). As it is he's already terrified of me holding his foot if I have any tool in my other hand. I tried to trim his foot fur and he was convinced I was going to cut his nails. But so far if I have no tools he stays calm, and I don't want to lose that. So I have him scratch sand paper and it works alright. I'm thinking about smearing cream cheese on the wall and seeing if that'll distract him enough for me to clip one. Though I get so nervous about quicking him I don't know if I'll go through with it. I always quick him and wreck everything.
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Old 05-05-2013, 03:06 PM
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This is the reason I want to be in Susan Garret's Puppy Peaks. I want to know how she teaches her dogs to tolerate dremeling. I must know.

That aside, I am going to attempt to shape lying on the back between my straight legs until released, and go from there. It will be epic.
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