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Why do you have to take jabs and slings at me like you did above? What the heck does money have to do with anything??? I hate to burst your bubble, but no reputable dog person ever makes any money from dogs! A friend of mine broke even one year for the first time in 20 years! If you had a clue about breeding and showing then maybe you would not try to be so snide--even tho you weren't trying to offend personally, rofl.

The reason I have said people need to learn about Manchesters is because unless someone is at least familiar with Terriers in general they have NO IDEA of the stubbornness of these dogs. I started cutting my puppies toenails when they were 2 weeks old, so they would not claw the hell out of their mothers breasts. Now, we are talking a puppy that is smaller than a tennis ball, that refuses to be held still. There is nothing to hold onto while you cut the tiny little nails. It is a real struggle, believe me. And it is funny as hell to see the little monsters wiggling out of the tightest grip! They are like worms!!!!!

I do not have to tie any of my dogs' mouths shut now. They all know that they are not going to be killed when I do their nails. But there were times when they would decide to give me a hard time, so I would just tie their mouths closed. If some people around here would look up the definition of "muzzling" they would not be confused by the syntax I use. In general it means to prevent a dog from opening its mouth.

I went thru hell with Ridge when I got him. He was about 15 months old, and would have eaten my ass up. After many years of tying his mouth, we no longer have a problem, and I no longer have to tie his mouth.

I have talked with many Manchester breeders, and heard some pretty funny stories about what they resort to in order to cut nails. One super lady told me that she just turns them upside down, and clamps them between her thighs, rofl. Another lady puts the dog into a sling, and while it hangs there cuts the nails. And before Adrienne says something dumb, that is a full body sling...usually a towel with 4 holes cut in for the legs.

Now my dogs all mostly doze off while I am doing their nails and cleaning their teeth. So......again, I hate to say it, but I do know what I am talking about!

As to the question of what is so different about my dogs compared to others.............Sight hounds in particular have to be handled carefully. They have no body fat, and so are susceptible to anything that can get thru the skin. They are also ultra sensitive to any type of sedative. A normal dose of anesthetic may kill a sight hound. The same is true for Manchesters.

Also, Terriers AND sight hounds are treacherous, and CAN NOT BE LEFT ALONE UNATTENDED. In fact, Manchesters are one of the miracle terrier breeds that can be turned out together. The majority of Terrier breeds cannot be put together--either males or females. They will do their best to kill each other. That is typical Terrier Temperament.

Whippets and Greyhounds can start a fight at the drop of a hat, and slash the hell out of each other. Their skin is paper thin, and can tear easily. Greyhounds turned out muzzled can still slash each other with their nails. I have one Whippet male that I cannot trust, so when he goes out with his brother and the male Manchesters, he wears his muzzle. It is of course a wire basket plastic muzzle, so he can drink, or even eat pizza crust with it on. Once in a while he will try to make mashed potatoes out of a Manchester, but only half heartedly.

Those who made snide remarks about my insistence upon crating my dogs know nothing about the characteristics of my dogs. I do not care to risk a blood bath because the brats started a spat that got out of hand when I was not here. And of course, having a group of dogs, the pack instinct kicks in, and they will all jump on whichever dog is loosing the argument. And rip it to shreds. Nice, huh?

So anyway......it helps to understand why someone is saying what they are saying if you KNOW what their situation is.

As far as dogs doing well eating garbage????? What the hell!!!!! If they do good on it, then by all means feed them garbage for heaven's sake!!!!!!!!!! Geesh.......give me a break! I have provided proof for the quality of what I feed my dogs in my signature.....finally, lol. As I have said, the only proof of a food is what kind of puppies you get from females fed on this food during gestation, and during lactation, and the condition of the puppies. I rest my case. Plus the pups are cute as hell, rofl.

well there are always ways, who knows if u do regular health checks, i dont know, the rest of us dont, and there are plenty of ways to get plenty of money from dogs with a title. i dont know alot, but my uncles a breeder i see him daily, a high quality breeder at that. he has one husky that is in competitions constantly, and so my uncle told me breeding them is his hobby, he gets them registered pays oodles of money for vet bills, but does many at time get profit,,,not that hes looking for it,,jusst when you price the huskys for 850, and people buy them the vet bills, food, and training are minimal to the prfoit of sometimes 6000, and keep in mind he does only have them for 9 weeks and checks at the owners to their very core!
you seem somewhat strict of your dogs, you have never once mentioned a cute story, when one of your manchesters has jumped up on your lap, and if u did..once..u mostly just talk of how prized they are.
I am not a breeder but i know enough to beleive in what im saying. and u really didnt have to take it personally, u should know that since i said i am not meaning it personally. your older right, well with your atittude i could never imagine u a grandmother

For stories, roflmbo! For instance....let us see if this picture will come out OK..... This is sweet Lucy Goose. Normally she is sleeping ON my shoulder.
And this one......

My dogs and I are all senior citizens now, and lead fairly quiet lives. I have to sleep in my reclining chair because of my back, and there are 8 who regularly use me for their heated water bed, rofl. If I want to shift my position, I have to make them all get down, and try to move as quick as I can before they start jumping back up on me. If the above pictures show, the first one is of Lucy Goose, sleeping on my shoulder. The second one is her sister, "Birdie Girl" leaping up onto my lap.

Birdie got her name (real name is Missy) because she is my bird watching dog. Whenever I sit to watch the birds, she hops up onto me, flips over on her back, and goes to sleep in the crook of my arm. That is her idea of watching birdies, rofl. She just loooovvvveees birdies, lol. Once she saw some doves walking on the ground, and had a heart attack. I tried to explain to her that those ARE birds, lol. She didn't believe me. She had never actually seen a bird, just like the sound of the word, rofl.

Anyway, as far as your uncle, I have no comment since I know nothing about him or his dogs. I do know that many people have no use for those who subject sled dogs to the horrors of racing. Those people are too stupid to know that sled dogs LIVE to run and to pull. It is NOT cruel as far as the dog is concerned. But these people insist on looking at things from a strictly human point of view. And again, since they know nothing about the characteristics of sled dogs, they come up with stupid statements like "the cruelty of iditarod and such!

Hope you have a bit more insight into my life as a doggy person!

the dogs are sold as pets and for competitions, not sledding by the way( which i dont have a problem with, if they are treated fairly, i wouldnt even mention ur issues about sleeding, considering the number of people on her who do have sled dogs.
see isnt sharing stories about ur beauties more fun then arguing?
I simply mentioned my uncle to tell you i am not a complete moron who gts things from the sky, but have proffesional breeding in my background.
I can't imagine a person of your age, knowledge, and being a dog lover to have suuch attitude so i am giving you the benifit of the doubt, and thinking your not like this in reality

****! Now that I have FINALLY come to the end of this thread, I'm out of time! Well, I have to say *something*.
I crate my puppy and she is fine with it. I've never crated any of my other dogs before and they were fine too.
I feed my puppy Nutro Ultra and she is healthy. Some people on this forum are just obsessed with trying to force people into feeding what they believe is the best food. It's annoying.
The very first dog I ever fell in love with as a kid was a Manchester Terrier named Tippy. He wasn't even my dog, but a distant neighbors'. I visited him every day and I even stole a rhinestone collar for him from K-mart.
I have a terrier mix and she is everything Manchesters said terriers are. She will need to be muzzled to have her nails cut because the Vet nicked her quick and she never forgot, even though she was quite young. Before that, I was doing them myself and had no problem. She is stubborn, hyper and frusterating, while at the same time, adorable, amusing and very smart.
Personally I find Manchesters to be quite amusing. I like an older person with "crust". I also think she is quite a lonely person, judging by some of the things she has said. Lots of dog people have a difficult time dealing with the human race. I can relate.
I also rather enjoy the way she pisses people off. It's your fault (to whom it applies) for rising to the bait.
I just don't understand how people can get personally offended by someone over the internet who really knows nothing about them. This whole "debate" is just dumb.
Speak your minds and let people read and decide for themselves what is right for them and their dog. Nobody is going to win this arguement!
Ok...said my piece. Carry on....

Pam

well he does showing(best of breed, i know some ppl dont agree with that but he does it)obedience competitions....not too sure what else. i think he once in the fourth run(something like that) of becoming best of breed( for husky for best in show..i think it would be kool if he made it and made it to on T.V, but he was still ways off.
hes kinda like you though, he doesnt really do it anymore

I haven't read much in this thread... but I'm starting to think that maybe this wasn't the best idea... this is just making us spread hate... Manchesters obviously refuses to learn from other people, even though this is the whole point of this forum, and we aren't anything better, we're just doing the same thing right now... I suggest we should stop... this thread is 34 pages of hate as far as I know...