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Old 02-14-2013, 03:37 PM
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You absolutely did! This forum is so awesome, I rattle off a ton of questions and within 24 hrs a bunch of people (far more knowledgeable and experienced than I) come to my rescue. xD

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Old 02-14-2013, 04:08 PM
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Looks like she's coming around; you are doing a fantastic job, keep it up!

I guess I never realized how much in bothered some people, and that it had a name until now. I just called it "my dog caring more about other things than me" and corrected that problem when Recon started displaying fixation around 4-5 months on Frag. Frag's not a dog that will typically tell another dog off, either, so Recon couldn't really learn from him. I just did a ton of recall and it helped avoid it, pretty much... but because I don't have high expectations there I guess, I still let Recon do it once in a while because a BC stalking is one of the cutest things I've ever seen, and I just recall him after he hits Frag's face once... because he won't do it to other dogs and then it's an even more distracting opportunity to work recall.

But Recon was not nearly as fixated/driven as what you're working with, so I didn't need to alter much. He can go out in the park and as long as he's 25 or so feet from another dog he will stay engaged on me and not show any attention to them. When they get closer or really acknowledge him he either gets excited and too distracted because he's gonna meet someone or a little submissive and rolls over for the dog bounding our way. Then after their interaction if he's still close and they're not playing already/chasing, he will refocus on me and pay attention to recalls and commands. Sometimes they get running around and I have to wait for a break in their play when I know Recon will come to recall him.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:07 PM
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Mu used to do it to Murphy. I don't remember when/why she stopped. I suspect that he told her off at some point when I wasn't watching though.
Summer tells Mia off. Mia thinks that Summer telling her off is tons of fun. So needless to say it escalates things instead of shutting them down. Mia's kind of a butt.
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Old 02-14-2013, 07:23 PM
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You've made fantastic progress!!! I have a LOT of trouble with this with Lucy, I think it's the main reason why she has such bad leash reactivity problems. The only thing that's helped us so far is learning a really really good default sit.
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:31 PM
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I'm about to ask a really dumb question... I understand the importance of taking the puppy out on its own when doing offleash runs etc., but what about at home? Would it be okay to let the puppy run around in the house/backyard often with the adult dog, or would that "undo" all of the work put in when you're training/playing with them separately? Should you separate them if the puppy is starting to fixate on the older dog too much (at home)?
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:06 PM
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I'm about to ask a really dumb question... I understand the importance of taking the puppy out on its own when doing offleash runs etc., but what about at home? Would it be okay to let the puppy run around in the house/backyard often with the adult dog, or would that "undo" all of the work put in when you're training/playing with them separately? Should you separate them if the puppy is starting to fixate on the older dog too much (at home)?
If I was doing everything over I would still let Traveler and Didgie run and play together. I really think that if they are never around each other it would become a big novel thing rather than teaching the puppy HOW to be around another dog. And to be honest, I enjoy dogs that are together. I don't like keeping them separate. I would still let them play, wrestle, sleep together etc.

I would have just really cracked down on calling Didgie off of Traveler, rewarding heavily and worked on the same stuff I'm doing now. Alternating fetch and building interest in the game and me rather than the other dog.

I don't mean to make this seem like some big boogie man! I just was thrown by it and don't want others to be. I feel like no one talks about it but then it turns out a lot of people deal with it. Maybe not to the extent I'm dealing with but they deal with it all the same. But don't let it scare you and don't obsess about it! I would just pay attention and use your judgment!

I hope Sara gets time in the next week or two and can write something up since she did a really great job managing it with Zinga and Zuma.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:27 PM
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Okay, that's great to hear! I was silently freaking out for a day or two because importantly, I want this new puppy to be really good friends with Lugia BUT I also want to be this puppy's *best* friend. I'm really thankful to have the experiences of others to learn from, so it's just awesome that you've been posting Didgie's progress videos.
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:48 AM
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Okay, that's great to hear! I was silently freaking out for a day or two because importantly, I want this new puppy to be really good friends with Lugia BUT I also want to be this puppy's *best* friend. I'm really thankful to have the experiences of others to learn from, so it's just awesome that you've been posting Didgie's progress videos.
I kinda figured! I didn't want that to happen, I don't want people to freak out and think their puppy isn't going to care about them!

I just REALLY didn't think about this when I got Didgie. If I would have stopped for a minute and thought it would have made sense and crossed my mind but I didn't. So I just don't want that to happen to anyone else!

Plus, this helps me keep track of my progress!
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Old 02-16-2013, 04:32 PM
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So I'm just going to keep updating this thread because it's here and helps me keep track of it all. Anyone that has any tips or helpful info still welcome to chime in! I could use all the help I can get.

Here's today's progress:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYSLMaaOWNQ

The first 50 seconds are the hectic part and the last two minutes are the real progress.

We went to a new place today to practice. Well, not a new place since she's been there many times, but new to working on this and the first time working on it out of the yard/house.

It started out not great but not terrible. She was super scatted, her arousal level was high, she went after Traveler a few times and was not following through with her retrieve. I was really happy that I had worked on making her fight for the tug months ago to teach a retrieve (I would race her to the tug, beat her to it and make a huge deal about not giving it to her) because it seriously helps get her back into the game and me.

After a few minutes though she 'calmed' down and started focusing in on me and I was able to throw the toy in the same direction as Traveler was running and she would bring it back. The last retrieve in the video she is running back AT THE SAME TIME AS TRAVELER! YOOHOO!!
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Old 02-20-2013, 05:36 PM
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Great session today! I went longer than I should have and she got scattered at the end but the first part was great. She was able to retrieve when Traveler was staying, she was able to retrieve at the same time, she was able to hold her focus on me while he fetched.

I started paying more attention to Traveler, having him go around, do positions. That was harder for her but she got it pretty fast. I also am slowly starting to have her do things like go around, go through my legs. In essence, pay more attention. It's all starting to come together. I'm so proud of her



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X4Ro0GW2Vo
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